frogspawn74
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The Begining! 300DD build in-wall and basement fish room.
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frogspawn74
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nice start! I have almost the same setup. 300dd(main floor) sump in the basement. and that pump is beast. I have it feeding the 300dd, a 200 gallon growout, biopellet reactor and an xp 5000 skimmer. All have plenty of flow!
No clue to your electrical question
Im a strong believer in extension cords , remember the movie Christmas Story!
No clue to your electrical question
Im a strong believer in extension cords , remember the movie Christmas Story!
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
nice start! I have almost the same setup. 300dd(main floor) sump in the basement. and that pump is beast. I have it feeding the 300dd, a 200 gallon growout, biopellet reactor and an xp 5000 skimmer. All have plenty of flow!
No clue to your electrical question
Im a strong believer in extension cords , remember the movie Christmas Story!
It took me weeks to finally settle on the pump!. but from what everyone keeps telling me it will do more then I expect. What impeller are you running?
lol I'm trying to avoid the "Griswold" electrical system.
Bethany: Is your house on fire, Clark?
Clark: No, Aunt Bethany, those are the Christmas lights.
But after looking at everyone's builds here on RC there are a lot of ppl that go into great detail with there plumbing and layout and always seam to come back to running extension cords all over. Nature of the beast I guess.
I think what i'm going to do is drywall the walls built my sump, QT, and Refrigum stands and move stuff around till I find the perfect spots and just run the electric in the wall and not in conduit.
What style over flow did you go with? And what size pluming are you running down to the basement? did you join the duel drains to one larger pipe? Sorry for all the questions. lol If you can take some pictures of the plumbing would be great.
Will
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
Im bringing this back from the dead. lol I'm finally done with school at least till next semester. So I'm back on finishing this project. Here is a recent sketch to plan out my plumbing to the basement sump. I'm open to all changes and suggestions. So please let me know what changes need to be made now.
I'm working with a beananimal style over flow minus the emergency overflow. The sump will be designed so that if all 4 drains or either mane drains get blocked the pump will only pump a small volume of water before it runs its section dry and the pump cavatates.
I'm working with a beananimal style over flow minus the emergency overflow. The sump will be designed so that if all 4 drains or either mane drains get blocked the pump will only pump a small volume of water before it runs its section dry and the pump cavatates.
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DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
Yeah, a few things for sure. I just hope I can get it together sooner than later.
Mysticalknight
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i thought you couldn't do beananimal with two seperate overflow weirs without bridging them somehow? i know two herbies are possible tho
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
So I'm still working on figuring out my plumbing. After spending the weekend painting the basement walls with waterproof paint to stop the water seepage. I began to run all the electric for the outlets for the sump equipment and for the washer and dryer. I also got most of the pluming done for the waste pump for the washer and sink.
I then began to dig into figuring out more of the plumbing sizes for the tank drain and return. As you know from my posts I'm running a modified beananimal overflow system and the return will come up over the sides of the tank. I'm thinking to use of a spray bar in the center to get a flow from the middle to the sides. The tank is set up for 1" bulk heads, so I figured if I keep with my rough sketch and merge 2 of the 1" into 1-1/2 and down to the sump for the full siphon and the same for the emergency. The return pump is a Reeflow hammerhead/barracuda and has a 1-1/2 intake/discharge. What size should I run for the return. Keep in mind the pump is at least 12-14' below the tank. I plan to run most of the equipment from the drain pressure from above. Stuff like the skimmer, gfo and carbon reactor, and my refugium.
So Anyone have and suggestions or recommendations based on what they are using as to the plumbing sizes I should use. Thanks in advance.
I then began to dig into figuring out more of the plumbing sizes for the tank drain and return. As you know from my posts I'm running a modified beananimal overflow system and the return will come up over the sides of the tank. I'm thinking to use of a spray bar in the center to get a flow from the middle to the sides. The tank is set up for 1" bulk heads, so I figured if I keep with my rough sketch and merge 2 of the 1" into 1-1/2 and down to the sump for the full siphon and the same for the emergency. The return pump is a Reeflow hammerhead/barracuda and has a 1-1/2 intake/discharge. What size should I run for the return. Keep in mind the pump is at least 12-14' below the tank. I plan to run most of the equipment from the drain pressure from above. Stuff like the skimmer, gfo and carbon reactor, and my refugium.
So Anyone have and suggestions or recommendations based on what they are using as to the plumbing sizes I should use. Thanks in advance.
Newbie Aquarist
Reefing is my middle name
I would personally merge them into two 2" drains. Then run the returns all the way to the tank and right at the tank reduce them to 1" Hope that helps. How is school coming along?
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
Two 2" drains, You think? That would be a lot of water don't you think? Granted only one should have most of the water flow coming down. The water is going to be falling about 14'min I figure thats a lot. (P=pgh sorry just got done with a long put off intro physics course, Granted this does not factor friction Pressure=(10^3kg/m^3) * (9.81 m/s^2)* (~4.26m)= 6.06PSI , to figure out flow is a bit more difficult Q= (p*r^4*DeltaP)/(8*n*L) but its a lot. lol ~2300 gph )
What size do you think for the return from the pump? I'm thinking of using the output size of the pump and reducing at the tank as you said.
School is going along. Takes a while doing school while working full time. But one more semester done about another year left.
Newbie Aquarist
Reefing is my middle name
Your drains are determined on the size pump you're using. Two 2" drains can handle about 2000-3000 gallons each. Doesn't mean that'll be flowing through them. I am using four on mine, two drains and two emergencies, and max flow going through the sump is maybe 3000-4000 GPH. Hope that clears it up.
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
A little, my DD being a stock tank is drilled for only 1" bulkheads so I have to reduce it to 1" through the tank. I was originally thinking of going with the 2" drains I just thought it would be way more then the return pump is going to be able to keep up with from the basement sump room.
So what your thinking is merge the two 1" drains to a 2" main and down. And the two 1" emergency drains to a 2" down to the basement as well.
What do you think of the rough sketch of connections? Do you think I should ad anything or remove anything. Obviously I would increase the pipe size.
Thanks for all your help.
Newbie Aquarist
Reefing is my middle name
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
Made some good progress the past few days. Got the electric finished, and hung a few boards of sheetrock. Should start working on getting the plumbing down to the basement from the display tank after I get back from my birthday cruise.
Ill post some pictures of how its looking tomorrow. Hope everyone had a great new years.
Ill post some pictures of how its looking tomorrow. Hope everyone had a great new years.
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
Picture of the fixed hole in the slab floor.
sideways shot of the wall going up and the equipment stand
View from the entry way door.
I had to move about 6 circuits that all went under the beam. Had to move them to get the drywall up
sideways shot of the wall going up and the equipment stand
View from the entry way door.
I had to move about 6 circuits that all went under the beam. Had to move them to get the drywall up
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
Spent all weekend working on the plumbing here and there. Started from the top building my beananimal overflows.
I still have to silicone the inside of the overflow boxes since they only do the outside. But I was able to get the plumbing made up from the bulkheads down into the basement.
The pipes coming down from the drains upstairs,
Manifold to run skimmer and reactor with the water falling from upstairs, hopefully should save me from using the two pumps I need right now to run them now.
Over all view showing the layout in the basement. Looks pretty close to my rendering. I still have to finish the stand and get the tank drilled for the return pump but I finally feel like I'm making headway
I still have to silicone the inside of the overflow boxes since they only do the outside. But I was able to get the plumbing made up from the bulkheads down into the basement.
The pipes coming down from the drains upstairs,
Manifold to run skimmer and reactor with the water falling from upstairs, hopefully should save me from using the two pumps I need right now to run them now.
Over all view showing the layout in the basement. Looks pretty close to my rendering. I still have to finish the stand and get the tank drilled for the return pump but I finally feel like I'm making headway
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
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Those tanks both before and now will only ever be removed by cutting them out of there. So for that reason I'm not too worried. As for unions the return section is only mocked up and will have unions on both ends of the pump. The drains into the sump are made so that the PVC is only friction fit after the valve so that they can be removed for maintenance.
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
Tell me about it. Ive gone through great lengths to start moving all the wiring that is currently going to that panel. See most of my house is still nob and post and 90% of the wiring will be replaced probably when my kitchen is finally remodeled. Till then It will be closely monitored.
