The Elegance Coral Project
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StoneRhino
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In the end?
In the end?
Eric, I am very interested in this project and have followed from day one. I had a healthy elegance of three years and killed it by adding onther sick one to the tank. They both died three weeks later to the bloating and wasting.
My intuition tells me that it must be some external factor killing the elegances. Virus,parasite,bacterium. As IME this coincidence is pushing me to belive in a virus,parasite,bacterium.
If all goes well and you get to the bottom of this. What will it all mean in the end?
Will I be able to buy a bottle of (Eric's magic elegance restorer) and buy sick elegances and dip them or QT them with a product and be able to cure them.
Just wondering what you see may come of all this?
I want another elegance!!!
In the end?
Eric, I am very interested in this project and have followed from day one. I had a healthy elegance of three years and killed it by adding onther sick one to the tank. They both died three weeks later to the bloating and wasting.
My intuition tells me that it must be some external factor killing the elegances. Virus,parasite,bacterium. As IME this coincidence is pushing me to belive in a virus,parasite,bacterium.
If all goes well and you get to the bottom of this. What will it all mean in the end?
Will I be able to buy a bottle of (Eric's magic elegance restorer) and buy sick elegances and dip them or QT them with a product and be able to cure them.
Just wondering what you see may come of all this?
I want another elegance!!!
crpeck
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Re: In the end?
Re: In the end?
Very cute. If he already had the answer to your question, why bother to do any research? How could he know what the answer will be in advance?
If Eric can promise a solution before he's identified the problem, then I think we'd better not waste his time on coral research and put him to work curing cancer or the AIDs epidemic. There's a bird flu coming along too.
Although your incident is a strong piece of anecdotal evidence, the real possibility of coincidence is something that you allow for in your post.
From my perspective, we will have accomplished a LOT even if we are only successful identifying the cause of the problem. Then, yes, hopefully there will also be a cure or prevention. But, think of all of the medical conditions that humans have that are still untreatable?
To ask Eric for this kind of answer at this point seems unrealistic to me ... sorry.
Its wonderful to see how so many people have hung in here with this project. StoneRhino, we all really hope to gain the confidence again to adopt these beautiful corals. I'm sorry for your loss. Thanks Eric for staying with it an getting it going again. Let us know how we can help.
Cathy
Re: In the end?
StoneRhino said:
Very cute. If he already had the answer to your question, why bother to do any research? How could he know what the answer will be in advance?
If Eric can promise a solution before he's identified the problem, then I think we'd better not waste his time on coral research and put him to work curing cancer or the AIDs epidemic. There's a bird flu coming along too.
Although your incident is a strong piece of anecdotal evidence, the real possibility of coincidence is something that you allow for in your post.
From my perspective, we will have accomplished a LOT even if we are only successful identifying the cause of the problem. Then, yes, hopefully there will also be a cure or prevention. But, think of all of the medical conditions that humans have that are still untreatable?
To ask Eric for this kind of answer at this point seems unrealistic to me ... sorry.
Its wonderful to see how so many people have hung in here with this project. StoneRhino, we all really hope to gain the confidence again to adopt these beautiful corals. I'm sorry for your loss. Thanks Eric for staying with it an getting it going again. Let us know how we can help.
Cathy
Knowing Eric the way I do he will surely have interesting comments on this subject. If he is able to isolate an infective organism(s) there certainly may or may not be a "cure". This does not mean that the average aquarist will be able to keep Elegance corals alive in their tanks in the near future. I suspect that whatever is causing the demise of these corals is more complicated and will involve more than a simple answer/solution. The good news is that if anyone can find a possible cause and effect it's Eric.
So, we should all be patient and let him do his research. The last time that I checked with him he told me that he left his "Crystal Reef Ball" at home and not in the lab! LOL
Steve
So, we should all be patient and let him do his research. The last time that I checked with him he told me that he left his "Crystal Reef Ball" at home and not in the lab! LOL
Steve
StoneRhino
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My post was one of humor or a atempt at that. I was just asking Eric if it is a external reason for the elegances demise will we be able to do something about it.
If I get sick I go to the doctor. If it is an infection I get antibioctics and then I get better.
(Seriously) If I really care to take a elegance under my wing after this project is over and the cause is lets say bactierial. Will I be able to get a antibiotic that will work in seawater that may help cure the elegance? I see that there are many sites on the internet where they list diseases of corals and what to do to cure the coral.
I guess what I am asking you Eric is are you hopeing that the cause is bacterial or parasidic. That you may be able to do something about it.
I hope that one way or another the outcome benifits you in some way Eric. This project must consume alot of your time, money and mind. For that I thank you.
If I get sick I go to the doctor. If it is an infection I get antibioctics and then I get better.
(Seriously) If I really care to take a elegance under my wing after this project is over and the cause is lets say bactierial. Will I be able to get a antibiotic that will work in seawater that may help cure the elegance? I see that there are many sites on the internet where they list diseases of corals and what to do to cure the coral.
I guess what I am asking you Eric is are you hopeing that the cause is bacterial or parasidic. That you may be able to do something about it.
I hope that one way or another the outcome benifits you in some way Eric. This project must consume alot of your time, money and mind. For that I thank you.
liquidfunk
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StoneRhino said:
I would hope it would help him sell books. He is a great author, being able to do this type of research, and write about it (for the average reader, not scientific journals) is I would hope, worth his time.
I for one, would read any book he publishes, his (possible) help in the elegance project, would only solidify my impression already.
I wish you the best Eric, and eagerly await any post on this thread.
thanks all. I am fixing the healthy elegance I have and sending it to Kathy after 48 hours fixation.
I would very much like another healthy elegace if you guys can find one - it will help to have more than one in the study.
Also, a cure may be possible, because as stated above and in a previous post of mine, a sick one took out my 7 year elegance in two weeks and they weren't even in the same tank - same water system but isolated by glass walls indicating to me a highlyl contagious and species specific pathogen since nothing else was even phased and the signs of demise in my healthy coral were classic and identical to the sick one. Made me sick to lost it.
I would very much like another healthy elegace if you guys can find one - it will help to have more than one in the study.
Also, a cure may be possible, because as stated above and in a previous post of mine, a sick one took out my 7 year elegance in two weeks and they weren't even in the same tank - same water system but isolated by glass walls indicating to me a highlyl contagious and species specific pathogen since nothing else was even phased and the signs of demise in my healthy coral were classic and identical to the sick one. Made me sick to lost it.
John75hex
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I have an Elegance coral that has been healthy for 11 months. Some days he doesent "open" as much as other days but has shown no signs of "the sickness". I dont know if i would consider him a "healthy one" yet, in my opinion the 1.5 year mark is a good measure of having a "Healthy one". One thing i noticed that might be a bad sign is that he does not have any new growth, no new white skeletal growth. there is a older 3 month pic. in my gallery. This Elegance was an aquaculture from Dr.Mac.
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