The End of our Hobby as we know it!

[bobssecrtsn]

I left my comments. Here is what I said,

This proposal is preposterous. I feel that our oceans do need to be better regulated to help protect them however, the aquarium hobby is not what it needs to be protected from. If you want to protect our oceans, stop drilling for oil, stop commercial fishermen from using trawlers, stop polluting the waters, and stop building so close to the beaches which causes erosion and in turn damages the reefs. It is aquarium hobbyists that are helping rebuild the reefs with organizations like CoralRestoration.org. We, as aquarists, also help by growing corals in a controlled environment and sharing these corals with others to help alleviate the stresses on the oceans reefs. This proposal needs to be reevaluated.

Hey shawn. Im sorry i kind of Copied your comment i hope you do not mind at all i just reworded some stuff and added a bit.

heres my 1jx-84lg-t0lg

 

[BlueCorn]

Several thousand tons of wild coral enter the aquarium trade each year. Perhaps if aquaculture were the only way to get corals, people would stop buying wild colonies. I love this hobby but clearly our current rate of consumption is unsustainable.

 

[bobssecrtsn]

As long as AEFW exist Acroporas will no longer exist !

 

[Floyd R Turbo]

MASNA response by Murray Camp

http://www.masna.org/Portals/0/Blog...g v3.pdf

 

[Floyd R Turbo]

post a comment here

http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=NOAA-NMFS-2010-0036-0469

 

[GroktheCube]

Are people sure this would apply to aquacultured in addition to wild collected specimens? That seems very strange if true.

 

[blajoie]

OPINION
By Matt Pedersen,
CORAL Magazine Senior Editor

http://www.reef2rainforest.com/2013/04/04/commentary-noaas-20122013-66-coral-esa-proposal/

 

[MondoBongo]

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Additionally, I agree with many others here, that strong regulation is the only way to protect where these species come from. I would much rather have these animals thriving in the wild than in my tank. I attempt to do my due diligence, as much as possible, to ensure I buy only aquacultered specimens, but its very hard. I would welcome legislation to make that process easier and help shield our wild places n

I firmly believe that when we lose our wild places, we lose a truly valuable piece of what makes our world amazing, and we are all poorer for it.

 

[mhurley]

Discuss away folks, but keep your political commentary off this forum, it is not the place for it.

 

[pdfrogman]

Discuss away folks, but keep your political commentary off this forum, it is not the place for it.

With all respect this is a political issue.
I am not trying to make this a political debate over the presidents policies but t is pretty obvious that the two are related

 

[Potsy]

This is from someone on another site who spoke directly with the NOAA. This seems to paint a less severe picture of the proposed regulations.


***FACTS***

You can own any specimen on the list,

You can continue to own them, even after the classification,

You can transport them across state lines but not for commercial purposes, and not internationally,

You can give or receive any specimens on the list for free (IE frag swaps and giving frags to friends) but no money or services/goods can be exchanged,

Most on the list are being classified as "threatened" not "endangered" which means there will be even more "exclusions and circumstances" that ALLOW for ownership and the likes, INCLUDING CAPTIVE RAISED SPECIMENS,

Other rights and privledges are available if you own the specimen prior to the new classifications.

Again hopefully this clarifies some info for people that seem to be confused.

Whatever you decide to comment...... I only ask you do 20 minutes of reading before doing so.

Topics to search.......

ESA (endangered species act)
&
Threatened species clasification and definition

If you still have questions or want to get the info from the horses mouth, call them yourself (NOAA), contact info can be found here.....

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/ole/about/contacts.html

Have a great night everyone

 

[pdfrogman]

This is from someone on another site who spoke directly with the NOAA. This seems to paint a less severe picture of the proposed regulations.


***FACTS***

You can own any specimen on the list,

You can continue to own them, even after the classification,

You can transport them across state lines but not for commercial purposes, and not internationally,

You can give or receive any specimens on the list for free (IE frag swaps and giving frags to friends) but no money or services/goods can be exchanged,

Most on the list are being classified as "threatened" not "endangered" which means there will be even more "exclusions and circumstances" that ALLOW for ownership and the likes, INCLUDING CAPTIVE RAISED SPECIMENS,

Other rights and privledges are available if you own the specimen prior to the new classifications.

Again hopefully this clarifies some info for people that seem to be confused.

Whatever you decide to comment...... I only ask you do 20 minutes of reading before doing so.

Topics to search.......

ESA (endangered species act)
&
Threatened species clasification and definition

If you still have questions or want to get the info from the horses mouth, call them yourself (NOAA), contact info can be found here.....

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/ole/about/contacts.html

Have a great night everyone

Less severe? Makes no sense government regulation is going to hurt and put responsible businesses that grow coral for the aquarium trade out of business?
Many of us grow and frag corals, sell them to support our tanks.
Like the title says hood bye to our hobby

 

[BrianD]

Please remember that political discussion is avoided on Reef Central. While this topic is certainly of interest to marine aquarists, the danger of misinformation being spread is fairly great. The best advice is to research the issue on your own and develop your own conclusions as to the significance or potential impact of any potential legislation.