The Frogfish Files
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Blackhawk708
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melbell86
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Read this whole thread as I have been a fan of anglers for years. Finally decided to take the plunge and picked up these 2 guys the other week. Hopefully some others unfortunate learnings will attribute to the well being of my 2 new buddies.
No names, they equal bad luck...
those are adorable frog fish! i love the red one
are you keeping them together?? if so let me know how that is going, im really curious because i am wanting to add another one to my tank that currently houses 1 pictus!nicolecraig
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Need help with my angler
Anyone knows how to treat an angler with a huge bubble on its body. Pictures attached. Im assuming its called gas bubble disease???? If thats not the right name, what is it? I have given it Diamox and nothing still. Hopefully that wasnt a mistake. A little info on him. He was originally in a 90 gallon with a lot of rock and plants. He has had this bubble for about 2 weeks now. He still eats but is a lot slower. he has really bad buoyancy issues.
Right now its in a ten gallon tank with no medication. I have no idea what the next move should be.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks
Nicole
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Anyone knows how to treat an angler with a huge bubble on its body. Pictures attached. Im assuming its called gas bubble disease???? If thats not the right name, what is it? I have given it Diamox and nothing still. Hopefully that wasnt a mistake. A little info on him. He was originally in a 90 gallon with a lot of rock and plants. He has had this bubble for about 2 weeks now. He still eats but is a lot slower. he has really bad buoyancy issues.
Right now its in a ten gallon tank with no medication. I have no idea what the next move should be.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks
Nicole
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aninjaatemyshoe
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If he has aspirated air, which is a common problem with frogfish, you may do well to keep him submersed at the bottom of the tank using some sort of cage. I used a breeder net once with a rock on top to hold it down, and it seemed to help. The pressure at the bottom of the tank helps them expel the gas, and, by keeping them away from the surface, they are prevented from aspirating any more air. Even better would be if you could put him in a deeper tank; deeper = more pressure, which is what you want to help him expel the gas.
melbell86
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Help with ID
Help with ID
can someone ID this frogfish for me? I just got him from liveaquaria (sold as antennarius sp.) but he doesnt look like an antennarius to me. From some of the research i have been doing he kinda looks like a type of Lophiocharon. His rod has no lure at the tip but it is really long. here are a couple pics.
Help with ID
can someone ID this frogfish for me? I just got him from liveaquaria (sold as antennarius sp.) but he doesnt look like an antennarius to me. From some of the research i have been doing he kinda looks like a type of Lophiocharon. His rod has no lure at the tip but it is really long. here are a couple pics.
Mental1
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Okay so I screwed up with my striatus and he swallowed a bunch of air while trying to get him off the feeding stick. My stupidity completely. So how long do you give them before you get proactive? It's so much air that he has himself propped under some rocks to keep from floating up. Turned off one of the powerheads and yes he is in his own tank and it is 24 inches deep. I could put him in like a blueberry box and weight it down -- he's got himself about halfway down in the tank right now. It will be tough to feed him anything let alone a pea. How long do I give him?
Mental1
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Never mind -- I couldn't keep my hands off of him. So I held him in the water (obviously) so his head was facing up and he kept swallowing water. I pushed very gently on his stomach. He got huge -- so much so that I thought he was going to burst. He coughed out some food and water but that was it. I propped him in some rocks and ran upstairs to get the blueberry plastic container because I did not know if the water swallowing was a stress response. I was rinsing out the container and watching him and he burped out all of the air. He is breathing very heavy now. We had a chat and decided we would not do that again. Honestly the way he swallows the line on the fishing stick freaks me out -- I can see it poking out of his stomach!
aninjaatemyshoe
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I always liked to use a thin-gauge metal wire as a feeding stick. The quick suction of their bite was usually enough to dislodge the food from the wire. Plus, they couldn't really impale themselves on it and do any damage.
melbell86
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im sure that was scary for you! I got very upset because i feared i had been feeding my angler too much and his stomach seemed to be bulging with gas. It worse when you know its your fault. He is on a strict diet of half a silverside twice a week now. I use a grip tool that i got from petco to feed mine and i have no issues. They are just huge plastic tweezers, and i pinch the tail of the food and bring it to his face, let go and he sucks the food right in. Maybe you could try out something like that so it isnt so scary!
also, i read that you can gently "burp" a frogfish if he has swallowed air. Hold him with his mouth facing upward and jiggle him slightly, this might help him to burp and dislodge the air. hope your little guy is alright!!
also, i read that you can gently "burp" a frogfish if he has swallowed air. Hold him with his mouth facing upward and jiggle him slightly, this might help him to burp and dislodge the air. hope your little guy is alright!!
Mental1
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I did burp him -- but I think he freaked and sucked in a bunch of water. I used tweezers first and he sucked one side of those in so I moved to the feeding stick. He is definitely not himself yet. I was just looking at him, he is breathing okay but he usually comes to see me when I am in front of the tank. He just sat there -- do not think he enjoyed the experience. His next feeding will be a live mollie!
krjackso
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those are adorable frog fish! i love the red one
Thanks. sorry for the delay in response, but yes I WAS keeping them in the same tank (yellow one unfortunately jumped out last week
), but separated by an acrylic divider. My first few attempts at separating them were failures, but everytime I came to find them, they did not bother each other. I would be very cautious though and not pressume this to be playful or imply tolerance of one another. I think it would only be a matter of time before they made a snack of one another. IMO, keep them separated. Anyways, once I got them successfully separated, they would always stay close to one another by the divider. Enemies or friends, no one will ever know (but I will assume the former).
melbell86
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Sorry to hear you lost the little yellow one 
How big is the red one? Share some pics if you can would love to see him. So far mine are doing well. They dont seem to care much about each other (for now) but like you said you never know. Mine are both the same size, although my pictus is very lazy and hardly ever goes anywhere besides his two favorite spots (one of which is right up against the front glass next to a large shell) and my lophiocharon (or what i pressume to be) is a bit more active and swims around but has his favorite spots too. Im still trying to train him onto frozen, my pictus has been eating frozen silversides for a month now.
How big is the red one? Share some pics if you can would love to see him. So far mine are doing well. They dont seem to care much about each other (for now) but like you said you never know. Mine are both the same size, although my pictus is very lazy and hardly ever goes anywhere besides his two favorite spots (one of which is right up against the front glass next to a large shell) and my lophiocharon (or what i pressume to be) is a bit more active and swims around but has his favorite spots too. Im still trying to train him onto frozen, my pictus has been eating frozen silversides for a month now.
