ive been very happy with ORA frags. plus 1" and well encrusted and i havent paid over $80 for any of them, with most of them in the $50-60 range. so far i have red planet, pearl berry, purlple plazma, plum crazy, voodoo blue stag, blue bottlebrush, oregon blue tort, borealis and roscoes blue. they are all doing great with great PE and no loss of color...they've actually colored up even more. i guess i'm lucky to have a LPS that does a large volume with them and can offer them at reasonable prices. i'll be picking up this bird of paradise next!! i don't care if they are new or old, rare or common.... if they look good and do well they work for me!