The Tiniest Angel EVER.
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TheFishTeen
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Now just get a baby bandit angel and your officially the 'Awesome Baby Angelfish Collector' :lmao:
It's almost certainly a Gray Angel. The clear edge of the tail fin is conclusive. The yellow at the caudal peduncle is characteristic common to both Frenchs and Grays. A dead giveaway, not observable from the pic, is the swimming pattern. Small French Angels swim with a pronounced shimmy, something like a Percula Clown, only much more exaggerated. Most of their motion at this size is a sinuous weaving, while juvenile Gray Angels tend to swim in more of a straight line. On the reef the different swimming patterns are very obvious. I don't believe there is any difference in the yellow band shape between juvenile Frenchs and Grays. The straight or curved band is a marker that differentiates Queens from Blue Angels.
TheFishTeen
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I thought I was among fish nerds here. I've always enjoyed watching tiny angelfish in the Caribbean. They are among my favorites, and I've seen literally thousands up close over the years. There are some very shallow reefs where vast numbers of French Angels can be seen in almost every crevice at certain times of the year, some as small as a smartphone key. French angels are active parasite pickers and the sinuous weaving seems to be an advertisement for their services. I'm glad you appreciated my uninvited description.
TheFishTeen
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Lucky! Must of been tempting to grab a net and take some of those beauties home!
Before 9/11 I brought fish back almost every trip. Most went to friends, members of a local club, a few LFS, and a few rarities to a public aquarium where I was a docent. These days I still bring back one or two fish &/or inverts, just because I enjoy collecting and keeping a mini-aquarium in my room while on holiday. The paperwork and security issues have gotten wildly crazy. I posted on my public profile here a picture of a checked through cooler chest into which the govenment drilled several holes, obviously looking for drugs. Fortunately they did not bother my precious fish too much. It (a Spotted Drum) is still thriving almost two years later. I catch most of my aquarium specimens. Great fun.
philter4
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You should not have too much trouble, I just came back from two trips and collected fish on both trips. Other then getting the license to collect the airlines have no regulations for putting fish in your checked luggage. According to the TSA website you can carry on a live fish if the bag is totally clear and they can see the fish is alive and swimming around. I called the number and they suggested I contact the airport directly to be safe, but I brought a few of the rarest fish I collected back with me as carryon and a box of live fish and inverts as checked baggage on September 17th with no issues at all. If you carry on any fish my only suggestion when you call is to write the name and ID of the agent you spoke with because the internet says it is up to the discretion of the officer on duty at the time, either that or just put the bagged fish in your checked bag.
Thanks, Phil. It's good to hear that there were no problems last month, and I'll follow your suggestion about the name and ID number. Here in NJ the TSA people at Newark Airport can be very difficult. They once confiscated a small four piece fishing rod of mine despite the written TSA regs allowing such things as carry on items. Agent discretion, and these people don't believe in explanations. Most of my tropical trips are outside the US, creating all sorts of complications and suspicions.
On a happier note I caught a P.aculeatus, your avatar, on a trip last spring to the Leeward Islands, a very small one in only 40 feet of water. It's doing extremely well, stuffing itself with blackworms plus whatever it finds in a heavily overgrown 220. One of my former students is a government official in that tiny island nation, so things go very smoothly on that end. I'm going back there in March. My 70th birthday. Damn. Carpe diem.
On a happier note I caught a P.aculeatus, your avatar, on a trip last spring to the Leeward Islands, a very small one in only 40 feet of water. It's doing extremely well, stuffing itself with blackworms plus whatever it finds in a heavily overgrown 220. One of my former students is a government official in that tiny island nation, so things go very smoothly on that end. I'm going back there in March. My 70th birthday. Damn. Carpe diem.
Fin Mike
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Ackee, your the first person who has said something about it. Excellent.
It all pertains to spearfishing. If your a 10+ lbs grouper or a 10+ pound hogfish in 100 ft of water, then your going to have to be concerned about that side of my personality. Other than that, I'm totally harmless. Just your average fish keeper. :beer:
As I stated before, it is definitely a Gray angel. French's have the yellow outlining the back of there tail fin. I caught one a little bigger in Florida once. Beautiful.
Just thought I would throw that tid bit in. Trying to keep the thread on subject. Don't want to upset the mods. They can be quite ill tempered at times.
It all pertains to spearfishing. If your a 10+ lbs grouper or a 10+ pound hogfish in 100 ft of water, then your going to have to be concerned about that side of my personality. Other than that, I'm totally harmless. Just your average fish keeper. :beer:
As I stated before, it is definitely a Gray angel. French's have the yellow outlining the back of there tail fin. I caught one a little bigger in Florida once. Beautiful.
Just thought I would throw that tid bit in. Trying to keep the thread on subject. Don't want to upset the mods. They can be quite ill tempered at times.
Bongo Shrimp
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Not my best pics but in my defense, he is small and moves fast. It's kinda like trying to take a close up pic of a bumblebee that is flying in the air. Not easy.
In this one you can see how fat he is:
In this one you can see how fat he is:
pic is perfect and shows that he is clearly a gray. awesome fish btw.
Bongo Shrimp
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Thanks guys! I think it looks like he swallowed a little marble.
Bongo Shrimp
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Graduated to frozen cyclopeeze! Still a little piggy.
Bongo Shrimp
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So I was videoing my pom pom crab today and actually got a good shot of Tiny the not so tiny angelfish. He's growing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAY637yutu8
Oh and now he has more black on his tail. It was cool watching the black appear and fill in over time. Still clear ended tail though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAY637yutu8
Oh and now he has more black on his tail. It was cool watching the black appear and fill in over time. Still clear ended tail though.
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