The Ultimate DIY Rocks!

Impur - there is an ACE in Lebanon, OR, which by the map doesn't look to be too far away. Growing up in a hardware store like that must have been sort of cool - you probably know a little bit about just about everything - a real Jack of All Trades...

Excellent, Kinghokus :D Thanks for the post and info.
You da man!
 
Yah, Lebanon is a small town. I'm sure the store is small. I have a large hardware store that carries ACE products just a few miles from my house. But its huge like HD and Lowes, so they don't have all the smaller, less common, nifty things we need/use for these DIY projects. But i get by ;)
 
I'm picking up a bag of a similar product at TSC on Thursday. If it is comparable I'll post that information as well.
 
I'll let you know what I find. They actually had two products that looked promising. One was the AgLime( Dolomite) type product and the other one was a pelletized limestone. I'm planning to pick up both so I'll post what I find with both products.
 
I've tried the Pelletized Limestone before. On first test, it fissed away in water, but when mixed into cement, the cement binds to the surface and the limestone then won't come out - it gets icky...
 
Oh.. I was thinking of using it as an aggregate. If the stuff just dissolves like that it's not what I'm looking for...Guess I'll scratch that off the list!
 
Yeah - it won't work very well as either an aggregate or as a replacement for salt - and I'm pretty sure it would get fairly weird too.

Now if there are some spilled bits on the ground around the bags, you might be able to gather a handful to play with - maybe you can figure out a way to either get it to completely stay in the rock as an aggregate, or to fully release like salt in a reasonable amount of time...
 
What's happenin I.R. and the rest of the gang!
I haven't checked in in almost a year now and was just wondering where y'all had the state of the art nowadays. Don't have the courage to swim through the recent mountain of posts.
:)
Did y'all ever get that leaching calcium problem under control? Mine leached forever, it seemed like.
Good to see the thread is still alive.
 
Hey Guy, what’s up! Haven’t seen you around this neck of the woods in a while â€"œ you’ve been good?

It’s funny that you checked in when you did â€"œ Travis sent me a PM a couple of days ago asking how everything on the thread was going â€"œ his time has been stretched so thin that he barely has time to post, it sounds like, let alone keep up with the thread…

Anyway, there has been some progress, of sorts. I think it can be said with some confidence that by adding heat and movement to the kure bins, that kure time is usually drastically shortened â€"œ this is no longer a “myth” or hearsay, I’ve seen it happen again and again myself, and others have reported success with it too.

I’ve been researching carbonation as a different way to “kure” rock, though it really isn’t about kuring at that point, but transforming. I think there will always need to be a kure bath, as there will almost always be some calcium hydroxide that doesn’t get converted to calcium carbonate, but I think with carbonation, that can come down to a week or two.

I’ve come up with one carbonation method that seems to have some promise for the hobbyist (as opposed to those of us who are hoping to make a little money on this), which is a wet-dry cycle kure. I had great luck with basically watering my rock on the porch last fall. I set it around one of my flower beds and when the sprinkler was on, the rock would get wet down fairly well and dry out over the night and next day. I left them out like that for around 3-4 weeks and when I went to kure them it took a little over 2 weeks to do so and fewer water changes than I expected. This of course works best on appropriately cured rock, that is, rock that is around 28 days old. Goldmaniac posted a while back that he had a batch of rock sort of stuck at a little over 9, and I suggested that he clean his bins for one, to make sure the accumulation around the top of the water edge wasn’t messing with the test, and then to fill and drain on a regular cycle, allowing the rock to dry between fills, and that finished the rock out in around a week, if I remember correctly.

And finally, I’ve revised the Jiffy Rock Method, but you can read about that here:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11580844#post11580844

So how about a picture of your rock? Is it in your system yet?
Talk to us, Guy :)



And Welcome to the Thread, Too Fly :wavehand:
Always nice to get new people :)
 
man this is killing me. i have all the supplies sitting in the shop and no time to spare to make up some rocks. on a good note,my kure tank heating issues have been solved and its easy to maintain 80*+ now, so my last batch should be done soon. and with the 85* temps this weekend it should boil!
 
No pix of my rock. It's mostly buried in sand. I wound up using it as a base for my live rock. But those parts that do show colored up nicely with purple coralline algae.

Well sounds like you've got it under control. I'll check back in this Fall to see howz things. You're a true inspiration IR. Keep at it! :D
 
Well I stopped to pickup that stuff from TSC...That was a bust!

Found a ripped bag of the pelletized limestore. I was able to crush the pellets into a find dust between my fingers so that is basically worthless.

The Dolomite product was also not what I expected. Very fine almost flour like powder. It was noted on the bag "hydrated Lime" which I receall being mentioned as a way to make more solid rock but I elected not to purchase any.

I did get a nice bag of oyster shells there so I guess it wasn't a complete waste.

I did run over to Menards which was just down the road and they had a pulverized limestone product that was more sandy/gritty and less like a powder. So I bought a bag of that and some small bags perlite.
 
I'm sure you can find a little time to make some rock, Kinghokus ;)

Sorry Cmpenny, that is a boo. :(
Nothing like wasting gas in this economy...

The pelletized limestone looked like little dust colored peas? That is what I found locally and couldn't find a way to use it, which is really a shame as the shape is awesome.
The Hydrated Lime, if Type "S", can be added to the mix to make a rock with a higher calcium content, and even though it is technically calcium hydroxide, it doesn't make the rock harder to cure - in fact is seems sort of like the opposite. You want to go easy on it though as it has no strength in and of itself, and if you use to much, the rock will become fairly weak. I use a 1/3rd of a part, with the rest of the "part" being the cement (and then I add another 1/4 part cement). And it might lighten up the grey cement for those who either can't find white portland, or saw the price of white portland and elected to go grey.
And the pulverized limestone is exactly what you want for sand. Probably close to the same dust color as the pellets, right?

So now you just have to make some rock :) Excited?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12405937#post12405937 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GuySmilie
Well sounds like you've got it under control. I'll check back in this Fall to see howz things. You're a true inspiration IR. Keep at it! :D

:o
That could be debated, but I do enjoy keeping the thread going - gives me something constructive to do, you know?

It was great for you to stop by and say hey - I love talking to handsome men ;)
We look forward to your fall visit.

Take care :)
 
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