Here is what happened.
1 Large haddoni, went through 2 rounds of treatments and then qt'ed for 4 weeks.
Perfectly healthy.
Introduced to ~250 gallon system. only anemone, and was doing great. Ate 3x in two weeks (fresh salmon with selcon).
Mouth tightly closed, foot buried, and looked like a perfectly healthy carpet.
One night, added a small haddoni that has been in the old dt for 1.5+ years. No new anemones or marine life for that matter have been added to that dt in over one year.
The small haddoni was difficult to remove (had to dig him out of the sand bed) and was clearly stressed (no physical damage).
Acclimated him to system where large haddoni was thriving. Within 2 hours large haddoni's mouth started to puff out (never did this before). By around 3 hours large haddoni's foot started to detach.
At ~4 hours I pulled the small haddoni that looked terrible and immediately put in qt than ht.
Large haddoni moved and buried foot in new spot, mouth has been puffed out for days going from extremely puffed out to barely puffed out, but always puffed out. Mouth is now starting to lose tightness and is open over 3 inches with the mouth being slightly puffed out. I will not be suprised if it starts to gape by tomorrow.
Here are water params: Nitrate - 0, Nitrite - 0, Ammonia - 0, Phosphates - 0, SG 1.025-1.026, alkalinity in check, ph in check, temp - 79. Everything is perfect and has been perfect.
The small haddoni came from a tank with only soft corals (no lps).
Small haddoni looks almost perfect after a few days with cipro so far and the large looks like he is about to fall down hill very fast.
I am so confused on how this happened unless infections can lay latent and are brought out by stress, or maybe they are not all infections, maybe there is something else that is being missed/ not considered (something viral?) - I know others do not think so/ don't think it is possible for something like this from established healthy nems - but this, at least to me, is the only explanation. If the small haddoni simply stressed the large one, these symptoms/ behaviors would have subsided by now - not be getting worse.
The large haddoni is 2+ ft and I really cannot believe I am going to have to detach him, pull him out and treat him again.
I am very disheartened right now. Just thought I would share and would love to hear others opinions and explanations about what/how went wrong/ what is going on.
1 Large haddoni, went through 2 rounds of treatments and then qt'ed for 4 weeks.
Perfectly healthy.
Introduced to ~250 gallon system. only anemone, and was doing great. Ate 3x in two weeks (fresh salmon with selcon).
Mouth tightly closed, foot buried, and looked like a perfectly healthy carpet.
One night, added a small haddoni that has been in the old dt for 1.5+ years. No new anemones or marine life for that matter have been added to that dt in over one year.
The small haddoni was difficult to remove (had to dig him out of the sand bed) and was clearly stressed (no physical damage).
Acclimated him to system where large haddoni was thriving. Within 2 hours large haddoni's mouth started to puff out (never did this before). By around 3 hours large haddoni's foot started to detach.
At ~4 hours I pulled the small haddoni that looked terrible and immediately put in qt than ht.
Large haddoni moved and buried foot in new spot, mouth has been puffed out for days going from extremely puffed out to barely puffed out, but always puffed out. Mouth is now starting to lose tightness and is open over 3 inches with the mouth being slightly puffed out. I will not be suprised if it starts to gape by tomorrow.
Here are water params: Nitrate - 0, Nitrite - 0, Ammonia - 0, Phosphates - 0, SG 1.025-1.026, alkalinity in check, ph in check, temp - 79. Everything is perfect and has been perfect.
The small haddoni came from a tank with only soft corals (no lps).
Small haddoni looks almost perfect after a few days with cipro so far and the large looks like he is about to fall down hill very fast.
I am so confused on how this happened unless infections can lay latent and are brought out by stress, or maybe they are not all infections, maybe there is something else that is being missed/ not considered (something viral?) - I know others do not think so/ don't think it is possible for something like this from established healthy nems - but this, at least to me, is the only explanation. If the small haddoni simply stressed the large one, these symptoms/ behaviors would have subsided by now - not be getting worse.
The large haddoni is 2+ ft and I really cannot believe I am going to have to detach him, pull him out and treat him again.
I am very disheartened right now. Just thought I would share and would love to hear others opinions and explanations about what/how went wrong/ what is going on.