Thumbs up for Ozone!
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mikeguerrero
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Jay,
I'm just really perplexed on your controller, it's the Milwaukee like me right?
I havent' touched mine with cleaning it or inspections on it since I got it.
I followed what the tech said, drop it in the tank and leave it alone for 5 days.
Then fire it up; he was right, I have had no problems just great results.
If I get that jump in ORP reading I will post and let you know okay....
Hope you get it to dial up right on Tuesday, it's a fun toy once you got it tweaked.
Good luck Jay....
Mike
I'm just really perplexed on your controller, it's the Milwaukee like me right?
I havent' touched mine with cleaning it or inspections on it since I got it.
I followed what the tech said, drop it in the tank and leave it alone for 5 days.
Then fire it up; he was right, I have had no problems just great results.
If I get that jump in ORP reading I will post and let you know okay....
Hope you get it to dial up right on Tuesday, it's a fun toy once you got it tweaked.
Good luck Jay....
Mike
mikeguerrero
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Thrlride,
It does make a smell, I thought just like you, hoping for zero smell...
However, when I fired her up, I picked up the residual smell comming from the vents of my collection cup on the skimmer.
Deltec has two small holes, once I placed small carbon bags on each, the smell virtually went away.
Now that I have dialed down to 25 mg/hr, the smell is so small, I can barely detect and it's still strong enough to bring my ORP to 380 mv before shutting off.
MG
It does make a smell, I thought just like you, hoping for zero smell...
However, when I fired her up, I picked up the residual smell comming from the vents of my collection cup on the skimmer.
Deltec has two small holes, once I placed small carbon bags on each, the smell virtually went away.
Now that I have dialed down to 25 mg/hr, the smell is so small, I can barely detect and it's still strong enough to bring my ORP to 380 mv before shutting off.
MG
mikeguerrero
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Thrliride,
Wow, 200 mg/hr is a lot of ozone, I know you will be careful. With just 50 mg/hr I got the smell and it did make me dizzy, but I kept on smelling it, as I was intriqued by it.
Silly me, I even called my wife over to smell it, because I wanted her to be aware of it.
Thrlride, the carbon is very important as it will neurtralize any residual amounts of ozone that remain active in your water column.
Remember, ozone has a very short life in salt water, it's a gas that is so unstable that it cannot be contained in a bottle.
I noticed that my filter sock on the skimmer return line started turning black from the carbon I had inside.
Apparently the ozone is so strong it started to break it down much more than when I just have water running through it.
Then again I use chemi-pure which is very powdery already. I've heard that Kent Marines reef carbon is better and won't dissolve that easy.
Make sure you have carbon over any holes on the top of your collection cup, as it's here that you will pick up the smell of residual ozone.
Place a carbon bag over the hole and it should neutralize it considerably.
Keep me posted....
MG
Wow, 200 mg/hr is a lot of ozone, I know you will be careful. With just 50 mg/hr I got the smell and it did make me dizzy, but I kept on smelling it, as I was intriqued by it.
Silly me, I even called my wife over to smell it, because I wanted her to be aware of it.
Thrlride, the carbon is very important as it will neurtralize any residual amounts of ozone that remain active in your water column.
Remember, ozone has a very short life in salt water, it's a gas that is so unstable that it cannot be contained in a bottle.
I noticed that my filter sock on the skimmer return line started turning black from the carbon I had inside.
Apparently the ozone is so strong it started to break it down much more than when I just have water running through it.
Then again I use chemi-pure which is very powdery already. I've heard that Kent Marines reef carbon is better and won't dissolve that easy.
Make sure you have carbon over any holes on the top of your collection cup, as it's here that you will pick up the smell of residual ozone.
Place a carbon bag over the hole and it should neutralize it considerably.
Keep me posted....
MG
thrlride
Aka lemmywinks
I'm going to try the mod for the collection cup where the venturi sucks from there as well as from the generator. Hopefully that will fix that problem. I will also put a bag of carbon over the T fitting on my gate valve mod as well as some carbon in a filter sock on the output of the skimmer. Do you think that will cover all possible spots?
mikeguerrero
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Sounds like that will work...
Try running it without the mods first so you can bench mark how well the mod is working....
Since the Deltec has two small holes on the collection cup, I could snug norprene tubing from the T fitting to one of the holes and then the other hole is left open to create a vacuum here so no ozone is smelled period.
Wow, that would be a great mod and it doesn't require drilling or cutting, just place the norprene in one hole and you are done.
It would be like recirculating the air over and over.... Fresh air and residual ozone air.... wow what a concept....
MG
Try running it without the mods first so you can bench mark how well the mod is working....
Since the Deltec has two small holes on the collection cup, I could snug norprene tubing from the T fitting to one of the holes and then the other hole is left open to create a vacuum here so no ozone is smelled period.
Wow, that would be a great mod and it doesn't require drilling or cutting, just place the norprene in one hole and you are done.
It would be like recirculating the air over and over.... Fresh air and residual ozone air.... wow what a concept....
MG
mikeguerrero
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With out knowing your skimmer and setup it's kinda of hard. Let me explain mine.
I have an external skimmer; the return line has PVC piping that I connected to it, comes down vertically about 4 inches.
This is where I place the filter sock over the PVC pipe, like placing a sock over a foot; however this sock has two bags of chemipure in it.
On top of my collection cup my particular skimmer has two small holes to breathe. I simply purchased two small carbon bags to slide over the two little holes.
My skimmer also has a riser tube for riding my skimmer of any air bubbles before it goes back to my sump via the PVC pipe; here I place an additional carbon bag on top of the riser tube.
Done....
I have an external skimmer; the return line has PVC piping that I connected to it, comes down vertically about 4 inches.
This is where I place the filter sock over the PVC pipe, like placing a sock over a foot; however this sock has two bags of chemipure in it.
On top of my collection cup my particular skimmer has two small holes to breathe. I simply purchased two small carbon bags to slide over the two little holes.
My skimmer also has a riser tube for riding my skimmer of any air bubbles before it goes back to my sump via the PVC pipe; here I place an additional carbon bag on top of the riser tube.
Done....
thrlride
Aka lemmywinks
Thanks MG.
How do you guys attach the carbon to the skimmer output? I have a filtersock with carbon in a bag in it but I still smell ozone coming from it. I also smell it coming from the cup, but I haven't done anything about that yet.
Until I can get this fixed I'm not going to be a happy camper. The smell actually makes me quite dizzy.
How do you guys attach the carbon to the skimmer output? I have a filtersock with carbon in a bag in it but I still smell ozone coming from it. I also smell it coming from the cup, but I haven't done anything about that yet.
Until I can get this fixed I'm not going to be a happy camper. The smell actually makes me quite dizzy.
mikeguerrero
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Thrlride,
With 200 mg/hr on the enlay, I don't know how to dial down, I heard it just injects at that amount and you have to rely on the controller to shut it off.
Are you injecting this ozone into your skimmer? Is your skimmer rated to recieve this amount of ozone?
Deltecs can only take up to 50 mg/hr before the O rings start to become brittle.
Just make sure your skimmer can handle that load; it's a lot.
I would place some good activated carbon in that sock, how about Kent Marines reef carbon? Or some chem- pure?
Does your skimmers collection cup have holes on the top? Maybe that's why you smell it as well.
Get the small Aquaclear mini carbon bags to fit over the cup, just rest them on top.
Remember, at 50 mg/hr it made me dizzy as I kept trying to smell it, because I was trying to see where it was comming from.
It wasn't until I covered the collection cup and the riser tube that the residual smell was reduced significantly.
Remember it's still there just very minute that you cannot detect and it's not harmful.
I have another plan if this doesn't work....
Post your results....
MG
With 200 mg/hr on the enlay, I don't know how to dial down, I heard it just injects at that amount and you have to rely on the controller to shut it off.
Are you injecting this ozone into your skimmer? Is your skimmer rated to recieve this amount of ozone?
Deltecs can only take up to 50 mg/hr before the O rings start to become brittle.
Just make sure your skimmer can handle that load; it's a lot.
I would place some good activated carbon in that sock, how about Kent Marines reef carbon? Or some chem- pure?
Does your skimmers collection cup have holes on the top? Maybe that's why you smell it as well.
Get the small Aquaclear mini carbon bags to fit over the cup, just rest them on top.
Remember, at 50 mg/hr it made me dizzy as I kept trying to smell it, because I was trying to see where it was comming from.
It wasn't until I covered the collection cup and the riser tube that the residual smell was reduced significantly.
Remember it's still there just very minute that you cannot detect and it's not harmful.
I have another plan if this doesn't work....
Post your results....
MG
thrlride
Aka lemmywinks
I have an ASM skimmer. I'm not sure how much it can take before the o-rings get brittle, has it ever been reported with my skimmer?
The collection cup only has holes where it attaches, other than drilling a hole and putting carbon on it or doing the mod I don't have much of an option.
The collection cup only has holes where it attaches, other than drilling a hole and putting carbon on it or doing the mod I don't have much of an option.
jay24k
Active member
Well, with an ASM, if the o rings get brittle, there is nothing to worry about. It is an insump skimmer so if it leaks, oh well. Buy a new O ring.
I was wondering what you guys thought about this. I saw those units on TV that supposebly attach ozone and nasty particulars in the air and bond it to the machine. Ionic breeze machines I think. If this does in fact do that, I wonder about sticking a smaller one in your bottom area which should bind to any ozone foaming free.
I was wondering what you guys thought about this. I saw those units on TV that supposebly attach ozone and nasty particulars in the air and bond it to the machine. Ionic breeze machines I think. If this does in fact do that, I wonder about sticking a smaller one in your bottom area which should bind to any ozone foaming free.
mikeguerrero
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Jay24K,
That was going to be my second plan for thrlride..... You just beat me to it....
That was going to be my second plan for thrlride..... You just beat me to it....
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