Torch coral issues. Help?

[leviburns89]

So I've had these torch corals in for about 3 days. The first day, they both opened quite nicely, but by the end of day 2, one of them was closing, and today, it's closed up tight.

Before

After

Params were in check
Amm: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 3
Phos: .02

I do bi weekly 10% wc, using IO.

I use Rodi. And temp is at 80.5.

Tank salinity is 1.026

Flow has been inderect, but enough to make it sway quite nicely.

Lighting is 2 bulb t5ho ati blue plus, and 10000k.

Help?

 

[cloak]

You might want to look into Brown Jelly Disease/Syndrome.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/10/corals

 

[leviburns89]

You might want to look into Brown Jelly Disease/Syndrome.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/10/corals

Thank you!

This seems to be what is going on. I live in minnesota, they were shipped from cali.

The closed one seems to have a weird slime/jelly on it.

Any ideas on how to cut the one away from the other?

I will give it another 2 days, if it doesn't start it improve, I will remove it. But I just don't know how, the outer "shell" seems quite tough

 

[heritage]

Unless it's something obvious like light, flow, water, pest or damage it's really hard to say what happened. Judging from the first picture I think the coral was already in decline.

Possible it was damaged during shipping.

 

[leviburns89]

Unless it's something obvious like light, flow, water, pest or damage it's really hard to say what happened. Judging from the first picture I think the coral was already in decline.

Possible it was damaged during shipping.

I agree. It was the only coral that was completely upside down in the shipping package.

Also, I noticed one of the heads/tips was torn.

The only thing else in the tank that could come in contact with it is the scarlet hermits, and I've watched them for hours, they pick around the corals, but never at the corals.

I do however have what I believe to be 1 yellow tip hermit that was added with the Scarlets by mistake, and I will eat it myself if I see it pick at anything other than algae.

The coral is 10" below 2 t5 bulbs. I've read of people keeping these 6" below halide lighting, could lighting be an issue? Halides are like 2-3× what a t5 can produce

 

[heritage]

I would dip the coral and see what happens.
If it dose die off and you have enough separation between the 2 heads you can use a dremil to cut the dead part away.

 

[Dkuhlmann]

I agree with Brown Jelly, here's a link to the treatment with iodine.

http://www.athiel.com/lib/bacterial.html

 

[leviburns89]

I would dip the coral and see what happens.
If it dose die off and you have enough separation between the 2 heads you can use a dremil to cut the dead part away.

What should I dip it in? Coral rx or is there another product?

also, cutting the coral with a dremmel? What bit should I use, a disc?

 

[heritage]

Coral Rx is fine. Get a diamond cutting wheel for your dremel.

 

[leviburns89]

Coral Rx is fine. Get a diamond cutting wheel for your dremel.

After doing some research (a lot actually) BJD is nothing to fool around with.

Considering this frag was $15 for two heads, I will gladly remove one to spare the rest of my tank.

If this is BJD, it's no joke, and can spread an kill most LPS corals. So as soon as I get home tomorrow, I will frag it in half.

There does appear to be a jelly like substance on the coral, I will take pics when lights are on. It's not exactly like the pics I find on google, but it's def a jelly like coating on the head.

I will dip the one good head before, and after the frag process just to be safe.

But for future reference, I've now read never to buy euphylias online because shipping them is almost certain to result in injuries.

 

[heritage]

Are you sure it's not the coral flesh ?
But picture will help.

 

[Rlyman1]

I had brown jelly it took out two different torches one after another, also had a hammer get it but made a recovery. I tried the coral RX, one thing that I think helped was dosing vitamin c for two weeks. pull it out if it stinks toss it.

 

[leviburns89]

I had brown jelly it took out two different torches one after another, also had a hammer get it but made a recovery. I tried the coral RX, one thing that I think helped was dosing vitamin c for two weeks. pull it out if it stinks toss it.

Please tell me about your vitamin c treatment

 

[Rlyman1]

I think someone on here recommended it to help with BJD, either way i used the Kent Marine C and dosed it everyday for two weeks. Certainly seemed to help my hammer recover.

 

[leviburns89]

I think someone on here recommended it to help with BJD, either way i used the Kent Marine C and dosed it everyday for two weeks. Certainly seemed to help my hammer recover.

I will do some research on it tomorrow for sure.

But like I said, a $15 frag isn't worth losing $200 worth of corals, so I will do whatever is necessary to recover from what is ailing my torch

 

[HammerLover]

My newly bought frogspawn arrived too upside down and within hours its starting to have brown jelly as well... Maybe Euphyllias really have issues with transport?

 

[leviburns89]

Sorry for the bad pic, but you can see the bad one def had a gelatinous mass in it.

 

[HammerLover]

That's definetly brown jelly!!!

It always start at the edges and spread towards the whole colony. I'll remove that head as soon as possible!

 

[heritage]

Definitely brown jelly. Agreed I would remove it.
One thing that may have helped save this coral is a dip. You really should dip all new corals.

 

[leviburns89]

Definitely brown jelly. Agreed I would remove it.
One thing that may have helped save this coral is a dip. You really should dip all new corals.

They were all dipped in coral rx before going in. But the heads were not exposed, and once they were I noticed a damaged tendril.

Removing it tonight as soon as I get home, the remaining head will get a 20 min bath in an iodine solution.