torch dieing

hangles

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Woke up this morning and a head on my torch was missing no flesh showing at all and the next one closest to it had a white and brown mucus on it. I brought it toward the surface of the tank to get a better look and the current cleaned it off the green tentacles seemed to be ok just withdrawn.
does anyone know what this is ? man I am bummed this is a beautiful coral with 14 heads my center piece.
thanks
 
WHAT ARE ALL THE WATER PARAMETERS? ALSO, DO YOU HAVE DIRECT FLOW THAT MAY HAVE BEEN HITTING THAT HEAD CONSTANTLY?
 
Good questions... the first thing I thought about was alkalinity my torch HATES when the alk. dips too low. Have you tested Alk?
I also thought about flow, torches, in general, don't like a ton of direct flow they tend to prefer moderate indirect flow, make sure it's not getting too beat up.
 
water perameters
alk 8.0
cal480
ph7.8
sal 1.25
others at 0
the flow is indirect med to high good swirling motion alot of the heads catch mysis when i feed.
 
It does not seem to matter if the lights are on or off my PH stays at 7.8 and I cant get it to move any higher. if i dose any more randy's 2 part my alk goes through the roof and the calcium also. hopefuly i will change over to a kalk reactor this weekend and this will settle down.
my alk does flux a point or so . do you think this is what killed that head?
 
two weeks ago i had a feather duster die. you also said it was due to an alk problem. do you think these are related ? I did not know that so many types where afected by alk stability what i have read PH is more important. I know they are connected. but to have something die over night !
 
The two incidents are probably not related... but could be :)
It's very unlikely that a drop in Alk would kill something overnight. It would be a more slow gradual decline that would force animals out of thier natural range, the more time out of this natural range the bigger possibility for problems.
IMO, Alk is far more important than pH, pH is so darn fickle it is hard to nail down; and it always fluctuates between day and night anway.
I think far more organisms are affected by swings in Alk than is realized, but this is purely anecdotal on my part...
Another possiblity is a pest or a fish could have decided it was lunch. I was going thru a period where I was trying to rid my tank of algae and I was not feeding @ all. Well my purple tang (who has always been a model citizen) decided to chomp off one of my froggies heads. I started feeding him again and he left it alone.
 
wellI just got home and the head that had the white brown mucus on it was covered again and i blew off the stuff and the tips are all black under it is there a fungus that does this ? they might have been bitten off will the torch cover itself withthis to protect itself ?
 
There are pathogens that affect LPS but it was my understanding they were relatively rare...
I'm @ a loss here...
Steven "yep that's my real name" Pro got any ideas?
 
I am running a phosban reactor but i will check to see what they are. no flesh is coming off so far.I have not been feeding my tang nori for the last 7 days because i have a new crop of grape calurpa toward the top of my rock but he will not go up there to eat it. do they eat coral ?
 
One head still has that mucus on it I have been blowing it off but it comes back within a few hours. stayed up last night with a flashlight but did not see anything munching. so I am thinking of cutting the head off that has this on it to keep it from spreading if it is some disease.
 
Isn't there a disease known as brown jelly disease? I don't know if it is only for sps or also effects lps.
Tourkid had a like about disease treatment that looked good but I don't know if that was just for fish or not.
 
Yes in fact, Brown Jelly most often affects LPS... it is bacterial in nature and usually a result of poor water quality... but not always.
Lesions, punctures, stings from other corals, etc. can all cause damange that lead to bacterial diseases. Really ANY damage to a coral can develop into these diseases.
If it truly is a disease like brown jelly your only recouse is to dip/treat the coral.
I would clean the affected area with a real soft type brush wiping any brownish material you see off the coral.
After you have removed as much of the brown jelly as you can, dip the affected area for about 3 to 4 minutes.
You'll need to use your tank water and add iodine to the water to kill off the bacterial disease. How much iodine you add depends on the strength of the product you use. Some brands are 2 % solutions, others are 5 % and others yet are much stronger, 10 %. Of course Lugol's is even stronger and can be used as well. 10 to 20 drops of a 5 % solution to a 3 gallon bucket is what is usually recommended.
Does the coral look any better today?
 
I have some dip you can use. I almost sent it in to work this morning with Jen and for whatever reason, I didnt. Jenifer remembered we had that problem years ago and suggested it.

Dang she is good.
 
Ummm... Joe... not this kind of dip right? :lol:












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