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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11782227#post11782227 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk
Yeah right... like I know the names of them all. :) I'd have to have a SPS guy come over & identify a few of them. I always blamed the leathers for this.

Leathers are normally fine unless they feel cramped they they start causing problems. so unless your leathers are surrounded by other corals i would focus more on the SPS as the possibly the Problem. Its kinda a process of elimination thing, if your water quality is good then you have to look at other factors, Do you dose anything other than VC? I have been told by my coral guy that coral accel is a good product he uses it himself so i trust it.
 
From what I have read experienced SPS don't cause issues unless they are actually touching corals. They don't release chemicals in to the water like soft corals do. But yes soft corals do release chemicals when they get stressed. It can happen because of overcrowding, or just general stress from water quality or something upsets them in the tank. etc etc.
 
Puffer:
Are your leathers healthy in general? I used to have some issueswhen I found out that a nudi was eating the inside of my sinularia, it took a while to notice as there were no signs other than what I later found to be a tiny hole under the coral at the attachment point and the typical contraction of the coral. It was releasing it's usual defense due to the parasite but also difficult to diagnose.
 
I just had a conversation with Puffy and I believe that the problem I have always had with sps thriving is because I have a mixed reef. I think the softies and leathers are wining a toxin war that only a few sps can keep up with. I have 80% softies and 20% lps and sps. It's just the way it is.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11782492#post11782492 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jdieck
Puffer:
Are your leathers healthy in general? I used to have some issueswhen I found out that a nudi was eating the inside of my sinularia, it took a while to notice as there were no signs other than what I later found to be a tiny hole under the coral at the attachment point and the typical contraction of the coral. It was releasing it's usual defense due to the parasite but also difficult to diagnose.


I would see if you can find something along these lines. When I was doing maintinence, I kept losing some soft corals in a specific tank. Finally pulled a coral that was on its way out, and found a huge critter burried into the side of the coral.


BTW don't forget to go to this thread and put down your info if you are using VC.


http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1313416
 
They couldn't be healthier, especially since dosing VC. All have great PE on them too. I have a beautiful LT toadstool everyone wants frags of (& no, I do not frag them in my tank--not that tank...).
 
Anyone with lots of acros in their tank dosing C for any length of time? If so, any bad effects on the acros?
 
I've got about 10 acros & many encrusting montis & monti cup corals--all look great & most have doubled or tripled in size. I've been dosing for about 4 months now but have just recently started adding what I'm supposed to for medicinal purposes, which I figure is about 35ppm.
 
This might be the most promising explanation to why V-C might be helping our corals. Essentially the coral tissue and symbiotic zooxanthellae are dramatically impacted by oxidants and oxyradical compounds. As a powerful antioxidant the dosing of V-C might be reducing the toxic effects of oxidation.

Here is some of the article (people with time please follow up on the references!)

Susceptibility to oxidative stress of the Mediterranean demosponge Petrosia ficiformis: role of endosymbionts and solar irradiance

F. Regoli1, C. Cerrano2, E. Chierici1, S. Bompadre3, G. Bavestrello4
1Istituto di Biologia e Genetica, Universit�_ di Ancona, Via Ranieri Monte D'Ago, 60100 Ancona, Italy Tel.: +39-071-2204613; Fax: +39-071-2204609 e-mail: regoli@popcsi.unian.it
2Dipartimento per lo Studio del Territorio e delle sue Risorse, Universit�_ di Genova, Via Balbi 5, 16126 Genova, Italy
3Istituto di Scienze Biomediche, Universit�_ di Ancona, Via Brecce Bianche, 60100 Ancona, Italy
4Istituto di Scienze del Mare, Universit�_ di Ancona, Via Brecce Bianche, 60100 Ancona, Italy

Abstract
The effects of elevated pO2 and irradiance as inducers of prooxidant conditions have been investigated in the Mediterranean demosponge Petrosia ficiformis (Poiret, 1789). This species lives symbiotically with the autotrophic cyanobacterium Aphanocapsa feldmanni, the abundance of which is controlled by the intensity of light irradiance. In the presence of symbionts, tissues of P. ficiformis were characterized by a general enhancement of antioxidant defenses as compared to aposymbiotic specimens. The main differences included higher activities of several antioxidant enzymes and a greater capability to neutralize various forms of oxyradicals, as indicated by the total oxyradical scavenging capacity (TOSC) assay. Elevated pO2, more than light, appeared to be the primary factor inducing prooxidant pressure in the Mediterranean sponge; in fact, irrespective of the solar irradiance experienced by the sponge, symbiotic specimens showed comparable activities of antioxidant enzymes and a similar scavenging capacity towards various reactive oxygen species. However, the potential toxicity of photodynamic production of reactive oxygen species was demonstrated in organisms from more irradiated sites, as the levels of antioxidant defenses were lowered in the outer layer of the sponge. The role of enhanced antioxidant defenses in protecting symbiotic specimens, also from oxyradical-mediated toxicity of light exposure, was supported by translocation experiments; aposymbiotic sponges did not survive when moved to conditions of elevated solar irradiance, while no effects were observed in symbiotic specimens if translocated and/or deprived of symbionts.
 
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My corals first started the mystery syndrome a few days after replacing my PC lighting, that was more than a year old. I wonder if they acclimated to low radiance of the aged lighting, than after the change went into a toxic shock, which caused everything in my tank to bleach out (including one of my sponges).

interesting.....any marine biologists in the house?
 
another interesting article

Photochem. Photobiol. Sci., 2007, 6, 842 - 847, DOI: 10.1039/b703119j

Photo-oxidative stress in symbiotic and aposymbiotic strains of the ciliate Paramecium bursaria

Paul H. Hörtnagl and Ruben Sommaruga
We tested the hypothesis that photo-oxidative stress is greater in symbiotic representatives of the freshwater ciliate Paramecium bursaria than in aposymbiotic (i.e., without Chlorella) ones. The level of oxidative stress was determined by assessing reactive oxygen species (ROS) with two fluorescent probes (hydroethidine and dihydrorhodamine123) by flow cytometry in exponential and stationary growth phases of both strains. Photo-oxidative stress was assessed in the laboratory after exposure of the ciliates to photosynthetically active radiation (PAR: 400ââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“700 nm) and PAR + ultraviolet radiation (UVR: 280ââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“400 nm). Additionally, both strains were screened for their antioxidant defenses by measuring the activity of the enzymes catalase, superoxide dismutase (SOD), and glutathione reductase. The results showed that aposymbiotic ciliates had higher levels of PAR-induced oxidative stress than symbiotic ones. Significant differences in PAR-induced oxidative stress were also found in both strains when comparing exponential and stationary growth phases with generally higher values in the former. After exposure to UVR, aposymbiotic ciliates in the stationary phase had the highest levels of ROS despite an increase in SOD activity. By contrast, exposure to UVR decreased catalase activity in both strains. Overall, our results suggest that in this ciliate symbiosis, the presence of symbionts minimizes photo-oxidative stress. This work represents the first assessment of photo-oxidative stress in an algal-ciliate mutualistic symbiosis.
 
more:http://www.int-res.com/articles/meps2004/275/m275p129.pdf

Seasonal variability of prooxidant pressure and antioxidant adaptation to symbiosis in the Mediterranean demosponge Petrosia ficiformis

F. Regoli1,*, C. Cerrano2, E. Chierici1, M. C. Chiantore2, G. Bavestrello3
1Istituto di Biologia e Genetica, UniversitÃ_ Politecnica delle Marche, Via Ranieri, Monte Dââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢Ago, 60100 Ancona, Italy
2Dipartimento per lo Studio del Territorio e delle sue Risorse, UniversitÃ_ di Genova, Via Balbi 5, 16126 Genova, Italy
3Dipartimento di Scienze del Mare, UniversitÃ_ Politecnica delle Marche, Via Brecce Bianche, 60100 Ancona, Italy

ABSTRACT: In symbioses between invertebrates and microalgae, host tissues are exposed to
increased levels of photosynthetically produced oxygen. The biochemical consequences of symbioses
have been poorly investigated in Mediterranean species, but a general increase in antioxidant
defences has been recently reported in the demosponge Petrosia ficiformis as an adaptive response
to the cyanobacterium Aphanocapsa feldmanni. Since Mediterranean symbioses naturally experience
marked seasonal variations in symbiont content, light intensity and seawater temperature, the
aim of this work was to investigate if these fluctuations modulate the prooxidant challenge to sponge
tissues. Antioxidant efficiency was characterised on a monthly basis by combining an analysis of the
main antioxidants (superoxide dismutase, catalase, glutathione S-transferases, glutathione reductase,
glutathione peroxidases) with measurements of the total oxyradical scavenging capacity
(TOSC), thus achieving a more holistic assessment of the capacity of sponge tissues to absorb different
forms of reactive oxygen species. Symbiotic sponges showed significant seasonal changes in
antioxidant efficiency, with more marked variations in tissues directly exposed to photosynthetically
produced reactive oxygen species. The greatest variations were observed during the summer
months, with the highest seasonal values for some defences (i.e. catalase) and the lowest for others
(i.e. glutathione peroxidases). The marked increase in catalase and TOSC in summer suggests
greater production of H2O2 in the symbioses during this period, supporting the hypothesis that seawater
temperature can significantly modulate the prooxidant challenge in Mediterranean symbioses.
The results suggest that species with lower antioxidant efficiency may be less tolerant of conditions
effecting oxidative damage; e.g. increases in temperature during the summer months.
KEY WORDS: Mediterranean symbioses ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Oxyradicals ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Antioxidants ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Adaptation ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Sensitivity ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢
Temperature ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Demosponge

INTRODUCTION
Symbioses have been largely described between
photosynthesising organisms (e.g. cyanobacteria and
dinoflagellates, diatoms and algae) and several marine
invertebrates including poriferans, cnidarians, ascidians
and molluscs (Douglas 2003). These associations,
particularly frequent in tropical coral reefs, have also
been reported from temperate and even polar environments
(Shick & Dykens 1985, Dunlap & Shick 1998,
Cerrano et al. 2000a, 2003).
Photosynthetic products secreted by the symbionts
represent an additional food source for the host tissues,
while benefits for microalgae include the use of
animal waste for nutrients, exposure to light and a
protected habitat during their life cycle (Trench
1993). An association with algae is thought to be necessary
for some species such as adult giant clams,
which are never devoid of zooxanthellae, while in
other organisms the presence of symbionts is influenced
more by physical and environmental factors
like depth-dependent light irradiance and tempera- ture, and seasonal fluctuations in these parameters
(Shick et al. 1996).
Considerable interest has developed in the biochemical
consequences of symbioses to invertebrate tissues,
which are exposed to increased levels of oxygen produced
during photosynthetic processes. These reactions
involve the generation of reactive oxygen species
(ROS) such as O2
ââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“, H2O2 and ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢OH, the formation of
which is considered proportional to the partial pressure
of molecular oxygen, pO2 (Jamieson et al. 1986).
Several studies on tropical invertebrates have revealed
increased efficiency of antioxidant defences in response
to symbionts, and variations in such defences
have been measured in organisms collected along
depth transects or exposed under field and laboratory
conditions to different regimes of light and temperature,
both of which factors are well known to influence
the generation of oxyradicals (Lesser et al. 1990, Shick
et al. 1995, Douglas 2003).
In such symbioses, ROS are mainly produced within
the chloroplasts by several mechanisms associated
with the electron transport chains of Photosystems I
and II; among these, hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is generated
in the Mehler reaction by the oxygen-evolving
complex (Mehler 1951, Badger 1985, Richter et al.
1990), and from the algae cell this molecule can easily
diffuse into the host cytoplasm (Downs et al. 2002). If
not adequately neutralised by antioxidant defences,
hydrogen peroxide can induce direct oxidative damages
or react with superoxide anion and/or transition
metals to originate the hydroxyl radical (ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢OH), by far
the most toxic and reactive oxyradical.
In symbiotic corals, it has been proposed that antioxidants
can compensate the algae-induced prooxidant
pressure within a certain threshold of ROS concentration.
Above this threshold, the increased
antioxidant efficiency can be overstretched by ROS
production, and oxidative damage will occur. The
ââ"šÂ¬Ã‹Å“oxidative theory of coral bleachingââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ proposes that
bleaching is the final defence of corals against oxidant
injury (Downs et al. 2002): when algal production of
oxyradicals is exacerbated (i.e. by elevated temperature),
corals will remove the main source of oxidative
damage by expelling their endosymbiotic algae.
In coral ecosystems, symbioses are also greatly
affected by temperature variations, and increased sea
surface temparature has been associated with mass
coral bleaching events (Lesser 1996, 1997, Stone et al.
1999, Wilkinson 1999, Douglas 2003). In different
colonies of the star coral Montastera annularis, accumulation
of oxidative damage products, antioxidants
and cellular stress capacity were correlated with
increases in temperature and coral bleaching intensity
(Downs et al. 2002) confirming that high temperatures
may contribute to triggering oxidative stress and
bleaching in coral reef systems (Lesser et al. 1990,
Dykens et al. 1992, Goreau & Hayes 1994, Downs et al.
2000, 2002). Anomalous seawater temperatures lead to
bleaching events also in the Mediterranean corals
Cladocora caespitosa, Balanophyllia europea and
Oculina patagonica (Metalpa et al. 2000, Kushmaro et
al. 2001). Several species of sponges and gorgonians
underwent a strong mass mortality during summer
1999 (Cerrano et al. 2000b, 2001, Perez et al. 2000).
The biochemical consequences of symbioses have
been less well investigated for Mediterranean species. A
general enhancement of antioxidant defences was described
in the demosponge Petrosia ficiformis (Poiret,
1789) as a counteracting response to the more elevated
levels of oxygen photosynthetically produced by the
cyanobacterium Aphanocapsa feldmanni (Regoli et al.
2000a). The intensity of light irradiance did not appear to
be an additional prooxidant stressor, and the levels of antioxidant
defences in symbiotic sponges were similar in
specimens exposed to high and to low solar irradiance.
Compared to tropical symbioses, exposure to UV radiation
is more limited at temperate latitudes, and the presence
of photosynthesising symbionts appears to be the
primary factor inducing an antioxidant response in the
Mediterranean sponge P. ficiformis.
Mediterranean symbioses also experience marked
seasonal variations in seawater temperature, but the
influence of these fluctuations has never been assessed
in regard to biochemical adaptations to prooxidant
challenge. In this study, specimens of Petrosia ficiformis
were sampled on a monthly basis from symbiotic
colonies and the main antioxidants analysed:
superoxide dismutase (SOD, which catalyses the
dismutation of O2
ââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ to H2O2 and O2), catalase (which
reduces H2O2 to H2O and O2), glutathione S-transferases
(which catalyses conjugation reactions of glutathione
to electrophilic centres of organic substrates),
glutathione peroxidases (as the sum of Se-dependent
and Se-independent forms, which reduce inorganic
and organic hydroperoxides with oxidation of reduced
glutathione), glutathione reductase (which converts
oxidised glutathione GSSG to the reduced and functionally
active form GSH). The results for the individual
antioxidants were combined with the total oxyradical
scavenging capacity (TOSC) which quantifies the
capacity of the whole antioxidant system to absorb different
forms of oxyradicals such as peroxyl radicals
(ROOââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢) and hydroxyl radicals (HOââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢).
The aim of this work was to provide a better characterisation
of the antioxidant defences in symbiotic
colonies of Petrosia ficiformis and to investigate the
possible presence of variations reflecting the seasonality
of environmental prooxidant factors. The overall
results were expected to indicate whether seasonal
variation in both prooxidant pressure and sensitivity of antioxidant defences might be useful for predicting
differential susceptibility to oxidative damages in
Mediterranean symbioses.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11784326#post11784326 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by montanabay
more:http://www.int-res.com/articles/meps2004/275/m275p129.pdf

Seasonal variability of prooxidant pressure and antioxidant adaptation to symbiosis in the Mediterranean demosponge Petrosia ficiformis

F. Regoli1,*, C. Cerrano2, E. Chierici1, M. C. Chiantore2, G. Bavestrello3
1Istituto di Biologia e Genetica, UniversitÃ_ Politecnica delle Marche, Via Ranieri, Monte Dââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢Ago, 60100 Ancona, Italy
2Dipartimento per lo Studio del Territorio e delle sue Risorse, UniversitÃ_ di Genova, Via Balbi 5, 16126 Genova, Italy
3Dipartimento di Scienze del Mare, UniversitÃ_ Politecnica delle Marche, Via Brecce Bianche, 60100 Ancona, Italy

ABSTRACT: In symbioses between invertebrates and microalgae, host tissues are exposed to
increased levels of photosynthetically produced oxygen. The biochemical consequences of symbioses
have been poorly investigated in Mediterranean species, but a general increase in antioxidant
defences has been recently reported in the demosponge Petrosia ficiformis as an adaptive response
to the cyanobacterium Aphanocapsa feldmanni. Since Mediterranean symbioses naturally experience
marked seasonal variations in symbiont content, light intensity and seawater temperature, the
aim of this work was to investigate if these fluctuations modulate the prooxidant challenge to sponge
tissues. Antioxidant efficiency was characterised on a monthly basis by combining an analysis of the
main antioxidants (superoxide dismutase, catalase, glutathione S-transferases, glutathione reductase,
glutathione peroxidases) with measurements of the total oxyradical scavenging capacity
(TOSC), thus achieving a more holistic assessment of the capacity of sponge tissues to absorb different
forms of reactive oxygen species. Symbiotic sponges showed significant seasonal changes in
antioxidant efficiency, with more marked variations in tissues directly exposed to photosynthetically
produced reactive oxygen species. The greatest variations were observed during the summer
months, with the highest seasonal values for some defences (i.e. catalase) and the lowest for others
(i.e. glutathione peroxidases). The marked increase in catalase and TOSC in summer suggests
greater production of H2O2 in the symbioses during this period, supporting the hypothesis that seawater
temperature can significantly modulate the prooxidant challenge in Mediterranean symbioses.
The results suggest that species with lower antioxidant efficiency may be less tolerant of conditions
effecting oxidative damage; e.g. increases in temperature during the summer months.
KEY WORDS: Mediterranean symbioses ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Oxyradicals ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Antioxidants ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Adaptation ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Sensitivity ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢
Temperature ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢ Demosponge

INTRODUCTION
Symbioses have been largely described between
photosynthesising organisms (e.g. cyanobacteria and
dinoflagellates, diatoms and algae) and several marine
invertebrates including poriferans, cnidarians, ascidians
and molluscs (Douglas 2003). These associations,
particularly frequent in tropical coral reefs, have also
been reported from temperate and even polar environments
(Shick & Dykens 1985, Dunlap & Shick 1998,
Cerrano et al. 2000a, 2003).
Photosynthetic products secreted by the symbionts
represent an additional food source for the host tissues,
while benefits for microalgae include the use of
animal waste for nutrients, exposure to light and a
protected habitat during their life cycle (Trench
1993). An association with algae is thought to be necessary
for some species such as adult giant clams,
which are never devoid of zooxanthellae, while in
other organisms the presence of symbionts is influenced
more by physical and environmental factors
like depth-dependent light irradiance and tempera- ture, and seasonal fluctuations in these parameters
(Shick et al. 1996).
Considerable interest has developed in the biochemical
consequences of symbioses to invertebrate tissues,
which are exposed to increased levels of oxygen produced
during photosynthetic processes. These reactions
involve the generation of reactive oxygen species
(ROS) such as O2
ââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“, H2O2 and ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢OH, the formation of
which is considered proportional to the partial pressure
of molecular oxygen, pO2 (Jamieson et al. 1986).
Several studies on tropical invertebrates have revealed
increased efficiency of antioxidant defences in response
to symbionts, and variations in such defences
have been measured in organisms collected along
depth transects or exposed under field and laboratory
conditions to different regimes of light and temperature,
both of which factors are well known to influence
the generation of oxyradicals (Lesser et al. 1990, Shick
et al. 1995, Douglas 2003).
In such symbioses, ROS are mainly produced within
the chloroplasts by several mechanisms associated
with the electron transport chains of Photosystems I
and II; among these, hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is generated
in the Mehler reaction by the oxygen-evolving
complex (Mehler 1951, Badger 1985, Richter et al.
1990), and from the algae cell this molecule can easily
diffuse into the host cytoplasm (Downs et al. 2002). If
not adequately neutralised by antioxidant defences,
hydrogen peroxide can induce direct oxidative damages
or react with superoxide anion and/or transition
metals to originate the hydroxyl radical (ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢OH), by far
the most toxic and reactive oxyradical.
In symbiotic corals, it has been proposed that antioxidants
can compensate the algae-induced prooxidant
pressure within a certain threshold of ROS concentration.
Above this threshold, the increased
antioxidant efficiency can be overstretched by ROS
production, and oxidative damage will occur. The
ââ"šÂ¬Ã‹Å“oxidative theory of coral bleachingââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ proposes that
bleaching is the final defence of corals against oxidant
injury (Downs et al. 2002): when algal production of
oxyradicals is exacerbated (i.e. by elevated temperature),
corals will remove the main source of oxidative
damage by expelling their endosymbiotic algae.
In coral ecosystems, symbioses are also greatly
affected by temperature variations, and increased sea
surface temparature has been associated with mass
coral bleaching events (Lesser 1996, 1997, Stone et al.
1999, Wilkinson 1999, Douglas 2003). In different
colonies of the star coral Montastera annularis, accumulation
of oxidative damage products, antioxidants
and cellular stress capacity were correlated with
increases in temperature and coral bleaching intensity
(Downs et al. 2002) confirming that high temperatures
may contribute to triggering oxidative stress and
bleaching in coral reef systems (Lesser et al. 1990,
Dykens et al. 1992, Goreau & Hayes 1994, Downs et al.
2000, 2002). Anomalous seawater temperatures lead to
bleaching events also in the Mediterranean corals
Cladocora caespitosa, Balanophyllia europea and
Oculina patagonica (Metalpa et al. 2000, Kushmaro et
al. 2001). Several species of sponges and gorgonians
underwent a strong mass mortality during summer
1999 (Cerrano et al. 2000b, 2001, Perez et al. 2000).
The biochemical consequences of symbioses have
been less well investigated for Mediterranean species. A
general enhancement of antioxidant defences was described
in the demosponge Petrosia ficiformis (Poiret,
1789) as a counteracting response to the more elevated
levels of oxygen photosynthetically produced by the
cyanobacterium Aphanocapsa feldmanni (Regoli et al.
2000a). The intensity of light irradiance did not appear to
be an additional prooxidant stressor, and the levels of antioxidant
defences in symbiotic sponges were similar in
specimens exposed to high and to low solar irradiance.
Compared to tropical symbioses, exposure to UV radiation
is more limited at temperate latitudes, and the presence
of photosynthesising symbionts appears to be the
primary factor inducing an antioxidant response in the
Mediterranean sponge P. ficiformis.
Mediterranean symbioses also experience marked
seasonal variations in seawater temperature, but the
influence of these fluctuations has never been assessed
in regard to biochemical adaptations to prooxidant
challenge. In this study, specimens of Petrosia ficiformis
were sampled on a monthly basis from symbiotic
colonies and the main antioxidants analysed:
superoxide dismutase (SOD, which catalyses the
dismutation of O2
ââ"šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ to H2O2 and O2), catalase (which
reduces H2O2 to H2O and O2), glutathione S-transferases
(which catalyses conjugation reactions of glutathione
to electrophilic centres of organic substrates),
glutathione peroxidases (as the sum of Se-dependent
and Se-independent forms, which reduce inorganic
and organic hydroperoxides with oxidation of reduced
glutathione), glutathione reductase (which converts
oxidised glutathione GSSG to the reduced and functionally
active form GSH). The results for the individual
antioxidants were combined with the total oxyradical
scavenging capacity (TOSC) which quantifies the
capacity of the whole antioxidant system to absorb different
forms of oxyradicals such as peroxyl radicals
(ROOââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢) and hydroxyl radicals (HOââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¢).
The aim of this work was to provide a better characterisation
of the antioxidant defences in symbiotic
colonies of Petrosia ficiformis and to investigate the
possible presence of variations reflecting the seasonality
of environmental prooxidant factors. The overall
results were expected to indicate whether seasonal
variation in both prooxidant pressure and sensitivity of antioxidant defences might be useful for predicting
differential susceptibility to oxidative damages in
Mediterranean symbioses.

Ok could you say that again in english? ya that when right over my head.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11785746#post11785746 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Vinnie71975
Ok could you say that again in english? ya that when right over my head.

When the simbiotic zooxanthellae on the corals produce food by photosinthesys it also creates oxidants like oxygen peroxide that can damage the coral so the coral has to either create an antioxidant or expell the zooxanthellae (bleach) to get rid of it.
Vitamin C being an antioxidant could help the coral reduce the stress caused by the oxidants.

In other words the benefit of the vitamin is not because the coral uses it as a vitamin (like we do) but because the vitamin reduces the stress of the oxidants on the corals.
 
This study quoted is interesting but does not specifically mention vitamin C (just to make sure people don't draw the conclusion that the study proves that vitamin C is effective in preventing oxidation in corals).

I am interested in using C because every summer my tank gets too hot and my corals lighten almost to the point of being bleached. Perhaps the C will lessen the effects of the elevated temperature.
 
Obi-Dad is right, none of these studies are specifically about ascorbic acid and dosing in reef aquariums. In the first article post (copyright pdf that I got through the library and won't completely paste) they discuss ascorbic acid as one of three antioxidant reagents produced by this sponge. They also noted that in a similar species of sponge that does not utilize symbiotic algae had lower levels of antioxidants, including ascorbic acid. What they simply showed is that these simbiotic zooxanthellae (what gives our corals such bright and wonderful colors) produce excess oxidants and in response the coral produces antioxidants like ascorbic acid.
 
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