Treating with Vitamin C

[sellout007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11661192#post11661192 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jdieck
You are right, that amount of calcium is neglegible.
I noticed some calcium ascorbate products mention that it is 100% calcium ascorbate containing calcium carbonate. Seems to me that that is just a marketing gimick, it is either 100% calcium ascorbate dihydrate or it is less than a 100% and the rest is calcium carbonate filler.
Either case because the calcium carbonate does not dissolve at the tank PH of 8.0 to 8.4 that will be like adding a small amount of aragonite sand to your tank (like in purple up) and the real release is only the minuscle amount of Ca and of course the L-ascorbate which will be the same if you use ascorbic acid, magnesium ascorbate or calcium ascorbate.
In the case using ascorbic acid, instead of dissolving into calcium and L-ascorbate it dissolves into hydrogen ions and L-ascorbate (and some D-ascorbate) in this casethe H ions is what lowers the PH

So Calcium Ascorbate is *thumbs up* then?

 

[madadi]

how to pronounce ascorbate,

like mastur bate but you say, a s s core bate :lol: well close enough

 

[Pufferpunk]

Ummm... thanks.

 

[jdieck]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11661205#post11661205 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Myrddraal
I was only using 5.3 grams, which contained 361 mg of vit C. I'll halve that though when I start again. No film, so it must have been a bloom.

If the total 5.3 grams contained the 361 mg of vitamin then it surely has fillers in it. There should be 822 mg of vitamin C for every gram of calcium ascorbate dihydrate.
The filler could be anything from sugar or starch to calcium carbonate.

 

[Pufferpunk]

I just got my bottles of Sodium ascorbate. It says 1/4 teaspoon (1.3 gm) is 1 serving & contains 1112mg Vitamin C & 137mg Sodium.

 

[Jeff]

:eek2:

 

[Myrddraal]

Wow, that sounds like the pure stuff then! I'll have to see if I can find some local, and if not I'll probably order that.

 

[Jeff]

Jeni, I may have missed it but are you dosing for prophylactic or therapeutic reasons now? It makes a big difference in the dose. I have some of the same sodium ascorbate coming in a few days and i was wondering what a good dose will be of that stuff.

 

[Pufferpunk]

I have some new zoas that are closing already.

 

[Fishcrazy06]

Okay I chickened out! I want to see which one seems to work better or if you get the same results! I know the more the people the better but I am cautious! Like I said I can get one form the calcium ascorbate in powder and the sodium ascorbate in pill form! Thinking the powder would be better so I will wait and see how things turn out for you all!

Eric

 

[PaintGuru]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11660212#post11660212 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sellout007
So whats the verdict then on the calcium ascorbate? Ok for one type of a tank, and not for another?

Good question. The idiots from Lucky Vitamin apparently ignored my email to change my order and shipped the Ca-Vit C to me today. We'll see how it works out...sounds like it can work.

 

[sellout007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11661927#post11661927 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk
I just got my bottles of Sodium ascorbate. It says 1/4 teaspoon (1.3 gm) is 1 serving & contains 1112mg Vitamin C & 137mg Sodium.

I just got my Calcium Ascorbate today as well and it says roughtly the same thing.

910mg for 1/4tsp.

Contains 820mg of Vitamin C from Calcium Ascorbate and 90mg of Calcium from Calcium Ascorbate.

 

[Abso]

Any suggestion for amount of vit-C to start dosing for a nano totally 10g?

 

[Pufferpunk]

Please read this article before you start dosing:
http://www.livingreefs.com/forums/saltwater-aquarium-articles/590-use-vitamin-c.html

 

[Fishcrazy06]

Puffer do you see an issue with the pill form of the sodium ascorbate? Think that may make the skimmer go nuts?

Eric

 

[madadi]

i think any pill might. it has some extra ingredients to hold the pill together. give it a try and keep an eye on your skimmer if you really cant find the powder.

 

[Abso]

According to my calculations 1135mg C is the amount for my system.
BUT thge point i got lost is should i add this amount every day (of course not in 1st day but increasing dosage day by day) or this is the total amount of C that will be added whole process?

 

[caseyjones]

Wow I just read almost all of this thread, thats a lot of reading at 7 in the morning. I must say I am intrigued but curious as well. It seems like the Vit C is really a bandaid for a larger problem. Puffer you said after 2 days of not treating while you were in the hospital your Zoa's closed right back up, why do you think that is? It sounds like there is still something that is making your Zoa's unhappy but the VIT C counteracts it. Has anyone been able to nurse their Zoa's back to health and keep them healthy without dosing?

 

[Obi-dad]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11666442#post11666442 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by caseyjones
It seems like the Vit C is really a bandaid for a larger problem. Puffer you said after 2 days of not treating while you were in the hospital your Zoa's closed right back up, why do you think that is?

Vitamin C may be a good idea for a variety of reasons, but my zoas are almost always open and do very well without Vitamin C and I haven't heard of many other people with zoa problems, they are very easy to take care of compared to most stony corals. Is the Vitamin C in this thread intended for a zoanthid disease or predator or something?

 

[mnestroy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11666667#post11666667 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Obi-dad
Vitamin C may be a good idea for a variety of reasons, but my zoas are almost always open and do very well without Vitamin C and I haven't heard of many other people with zoa problems, they are very easy to take care of compared to most stony corals. Is the Vitamin C in this thread intended for a zoanthid disease or predator or something?

I have read and experienced the complete opposite, I have several corals and anemone that are doing great. However I struggle to keep most zoos healthy.

All my test are near perfect... I do agree that zoos typically are considered easy, but for the rest of us that can't keep them for some unknown reason its very frustrating.