Pufferpunk
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Cool, even improves the color of your fish! Now I really want befrore/after pics!
Treating with Vitamin C
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ReefEnabler
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I just got my ORP profilux probe hooked up and properly calibrated finally. wanted to check the effect of vitamin C on my ORP, found similar results as you.
Before dosing ORP was ~330mv ( I do not run ozone)
Dosed 15,000mg in my ~300g system (~15ppm)
After a few minutes ORP was down to ~50mv. It slowly climbed back up and was up even higher this morning, around 350 or so. The low spike may be because my probe is in the sump and I also dosed in the sump. So chances are the ORP never got so low in the display. But I do dose it downstream from the probes, and the flow in the sump is very quick.
I think I saw mentioned earlier in this thread that some people were dripping the VC? I think I'll try that next. Maybe fill 1/2 gallon of RO water with a day's dose of VC and let it drip.
Part of me wonders if the lower ORP is actually part of the benefit to certain creatures.
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Pufferpunk
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I do not believe you are going to accomplish the desired results by dripping, you won't be bringing it up to the desired C concentration.
When adding Vitamin C, your redox potential will drop for some time (until the chemical action of the C is exhausted). You will see the ORP drop and then gradually you will see it rise again.
When the ORP reaches it previous value, or higher, you know that the chemical potency of the C has been exhausted.
When adding Vitamin C, your redox potential will drop for some time (until the chemical action of the C is exhausted). You will see the ORP drop and then gradually you will see it rise again.
When the ORP reaches it previous value, or higher, you know that the chemical potency of the C has been exhausted.
IBASSFSH
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I have been dosing a few days now not more than 20,000 per day, and have to say I have seen no negative effects with the ORP going down suddenly on the fish or the corals. Plus I have to admit the corals and zoanthids seem to look better. I will try to take some pics tomorrow.
Pufferpunk
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I was hoping you took some pics last week. 
IBASSFSH
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Pre VC pics (11/30/08)
Pre VC pics (11/30/08)
Here are some pics I took on 11/30/08 prior to adding or knowing anything about VC.
Sorry about the quality of the pics, good camera lousy photographer.
Canon Xti is the camera used.
I also place an order tonight for two bottles of VC from Iherb.
I may post more later. I have several from November and early December.
Pre VC pics (11/30/08)
Here are some pics I took on 11/30/08 prior to adding or knowing anything about VC.
Sorry about the quality of the pics, good camera lousy photographer.
Canon Xti is the camera used.
I also place an order tonight for two bottles of VC from Iherb.
I may post more later. I have several from November and early December.
Pufferpunk
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Wow, your stuff already looks great!
Add it directly to your sump in dry form, no need to dissolve 1st.
Add it directly to your sump in dry form, no need to dissolve 1st.
Pufferpunk
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I know it is difficult to get thru all the pages witten in the origional thread but there have been some science-types who have corroborated that VC helps the collagen productions of cells, which is why it seems to be so benefitial to our corals.
1/2 tsp sounds good for starters. See if you like the results or bring it up to 1 tsp.
1/2 tsp sounds good for starters. See if you like the results or bring it up to 1 tsp.
Reef Aquatics
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Puffer..I just purchased the Vit C from Iherb. The code worked.
Early on in this thread I was under the impression that you had to turn off your
skimmer and phosban reactor... Now is that not true? I run half carbon and half
phos guard in my phosban reactor. Is it ok to keep running this and the skimmer
when Im dosing the Vit C? Sorry if this was mentioned already...40 to 50 pages is
alot of reading..
Also would it be better to dose directly to the main tank instead? and if I do this
should I pre mix it in a cup of RO water before I add it?
Early on in this thread I was under the impression that you had to turn off your
skimmer and phosban reactor... Now is that not true? I run half carbon and half
phos guard in my phosban reactor. Is it ok to keep running this and the skimmer
when Im dosing the Vit C? Sorry if this was mentioned already...40 to 50 pages is
alot of reading..
Also would it be better to dose directly to the main tank instead? and if I do this
should I pre mix it in a cup of RO water before I add it?
Pufferpunk
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Ahem... You forgot the other 80 pages--this thread is on it's 2nd split! 
We have been told it is fine to run everything you always have. Just in case & for full effect, I add VC at the end of my sump where it will go directly into the tank being mixed by the pump & not filtered out by anything. Seems to be working!
We have been told it is fine to run everything you always have. Just in case & for full effect, I add VC at the end of my sump where it will go directly into the tank being mixed by the pump & not filtered out by anything. Seems to be working!
Reef Aquatics
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Thanks for such a fast response...I think this is the most popular thread on RC!!!
I have about 60 gallons total in my system...Should I start out twice a day with 1/4 a
tsp for the first 3 days and then go up to 1/2 tsp after that?
I have about 60 gallons total in my system...Should I start out twice a day with 1/4 a
tsp for the first 3 days and then go up to 1/2 tsp after that?
Pufferpunk
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Yup, that sounds about right.
GigaFish
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I have been skimming along over the past week across all the pages but I had a couple questions that I didnt see in any of the pages.
1) Has anyone done any research/experimentation with different automatic aquarium feeders to see if they would be capable of daily dosing VC and what their accuracy is?
2) Based on this excerpt from an article I found with google, if fish absorb and drink water constantly, are they also receiving the VC? Has anyone reported positive effects from their fish with VC dosing?
"Do fish drink water?
The answer is yes, but how fish drink water depends on where they live. Water gets into a fish's body through osmosis, the process in which water diffuses from a higher to a lower concentration. For example, if there is more water outside of a cell than inside, water will try to flow into the cell until there is the same concentration of water on either side of the cell's membrane. The body of a fish acts the same way, either absorbing or losing water depending on its surroundings. Whether a fish absorbs or loses water is based on the fact that all fish must maintain a certain amount of salt in their bodies to stay healthy.
Fish that live in fresh water have a higher concentration of salt in their bodies than the surrounding water. Consequently, water continuously flows into the fish's body to attempt to dilute the amount of salt in the fish until it is equal to the amount of salt in the surrounding water. Since fish cannot allow their salt content to be diminished, their kidneys work overtime to expel excess water in the form of urine.
Ocean fish have the opposite problem. Surrounded by salt water, their bodies contain a relatively lower concentration of salt than the ocean water. In this case osmosis causes the fish to constantly lose water in order to equalize salt concentration inside and outside the fish. to partially compensate for the water loss, ocean fish actually drink water through their mouths. And to get rid of the excess salt they take in by drinking seawater, they excrete some salt through cells in their gills. "
1) Has anyone done any research/experimentation with different automatic aquarium feeders to see if they would be capable of daily dosing VC and what their accuracy is?
2) Based on this excerpt from an article I found with google, if fish absorb and drink water constantly, are they also receiving the VC? Has anyone reported positive effects from their fish with VC dosing?
"Do fish drink water?
The answer is yes, but how fish drink water depends on where they live. Water gets into a fish's body through osmosis, the process in which water diffuses from a higher to a lower concentration. For example, if there is more water outside of a cell than inside, water will try to flow into the cell until there is the same concentration of water on either side of the cell's membrane. The body of a fish acts the same way, either absorbing or losing water depending on its surroundings. Whether a fish absorbs or loses water is based on the fact that all fish must maintain a certain amount of salt in their bodies to stay healthy.
Fish that live in fresh water have a higher concentration of salt in their bodies than the surrounding water. Consequently, water continuously flows into the fish's body to attempt to dilute the amount of salt in the fish until it is equal to the amount of salt in the surrounding water. Since fish cannot allow their salt content to be diminished, their kidneys work overtime to expel excess water in the form of urine.
Ocean fish have the opposite problem. Surrounded by salt water, their bodies contain a relatively lower concentration of salt than the ocean water. In this case osmosis causes the fish to constantly lose water in order to equalize salt concentration inside and outside the fish. to partially compensate for the water loss, ocean fish actually drink water through their mouths. And to get rid of the excess salt they take in by drinking seawater, they excrete some salt through cells in their gills. "
Pufferpunk
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It absolutely benefits fish! You need to read this whole article:
http://www.livingreefs.com/forums/saltwater-aquarium-articles/590-use-vitamin-c.html
If you can get an automatic doser/feeder that has chambers large enough to hold the amounts you want to dose & can drop the total amount you want do dose for an 8 hour period every 8 hours (or 2x/day), go for it.
http://www.livingreefs.com/forums/saltwater-aquarium-articles/590-use-vitamin-c.html
If you can get an automatic doser/feeder that has chambers large enough to hold the amounts you want to dose & can drop the total amount you want do dose for an 8 hour period every 8 hours (or 2x/day), go for it.
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