Treating with Vitamin C
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Pufferpunk
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I keep a mixed reef of SPS, LPS, zoas & softies. Raise the amounts slowly.
the2ofus
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i didn't catch it!! but wouldn't it be better to dose every 8 hours since vit c supposedly lasts 8 hours in water? Then the tank would have a constant suppl of vit c. That would also mean less work since the 24 compartments would last 8 days.
I agree....every eight hours to maintain a constant level, or close to constant ppm, over 24 hrs.
I was still trying to put 32 hrs. in a day..
I agree....every eight hours to maintain a constant level, or close to constant ppm, over 24 hrs.
I was still trying to put 32 hrs. in a day..
Pufferpunk
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I wish there were 32 hrs in a day! You can certainly dose 3x/day, I can barely remember my morning dosing though. Nights are easier because I'm not running around getting ready for work & I also dose Ca & Alk at night.
Pufferpunk
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Nope, unless you plan on adding buffers yourself & don't ask me how much or of what--I have no idea. I prefer just dosing the buffered kind. That stuff you have really isn't much stronger than what I use. Yours says 5000mg/tsp, mine is 1112mg per 1/4tsp.
Pufferpunk
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IBASSFSH, Same as I do--absolutely fine.
the2ofus, It's ok if you can't dose every day. I forget morning doses a lot. But if zoas are really bad/melting, then to save them I do recommend sticking to the 2x/day schedule.
the2ofus, It's ok if you can't dose every day. I forget morning doses a lot. But if zoas are really bad/melting, then to save them I do recommend sticking to the 2x/day schedule.
IBASSFSH
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I put in two two spoons earlier this morning. The ORP readout on my Red Sea ozonizers was reading 420 prior to adding the VC. It dropped down to 70 in just three or four minutes. A couple of hours later it is at 145.
If I understand the instructions right, my system (350 gallons) will need 26,000 mg per day. The two teaspoons I added are supposed to total 10,000 mg. I added the VC under decent flow in my 100 gallon sump. I can see were you need to have a good skimmer and surface flow to keep water oxygenated while doing this.
I am debating if I am going to add more tonight or not. I don't like my ORP going that low. I have not seen any ill effects on the tank or its inhabitants after the first dose.
I keep 45 gallons of salt water mixed up at all times, and I added one teaspoon to that today. I wonder if it will still drive the ORP down since it has been mixing and aerating for several hours prior to adding to main tank?
Any thoughts?
If I understand the instructions right, my system (350 gallons) will need 26,000 mg per day. The two teaspoons I added are supposed to total 10,000 mg. I added the VC under decent flow in my 100 gallon sump. I can see were you need to have a good skimmer and surface flow to keep water oxygenated while doing this.
I am debating if I am going to add more tonight or not. I don't like my ORP going that low. I have not seen any ill effects on the tank or its inhabitants after the first dose.
I keep 45 gallons of salt water mixed up at all times, and I added one teaspoon to that today. I wonder if it will still drive the ORP down since it has been mixing and aerating for several hours prior to adding to main tank?
Any thoughts?
Pufferpunk
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Why did you add VC to your mixing water? After dosing up to 23ppm or more every day (up to a tbsp in my 90g) for over a year & not having any negative results, I'm not worried about the drop in ORP.
IBASSFSH
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My thoughts are that it may not drive down the ORP as much. It may still, I will find out tomorrow when I do a water change.
Also I thought that since we try to keep water parameters as close as possible when doing water changes, it made since to add a little to the mixed clean saltwater prior to changing.
Why should it be any different than ensuring the salinity is as close as possible with the new water to your tank water?
I always add a little Calcium and alkalinity mix to my 45 gallons prior to changing also. Less of a shock to the system, and more consistent.
Also I thought that since we try to keep water parameters as close as possible when doing water changes, it made since to add a little to the mixed clean saltwater prior to changing.
Why should it be any different than ensuring the salinity is as close as possible with the new water to your tank water?
I always add a little Calcium and alkalinity mix to my 45 gallons prior to changing also. Less of a shock to the system, and more consistent.
Pufferpunk
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IMO, I don't think that is necessary but I'm not as picky as others with my water change water. I think I've only tested that water 1x & never add anything to it. What kind of salt do you use?
Jeff
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If you have to add anything to your new saltwater then you need to pick a new brand of salt IMO.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11485017#post11485017
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11485017#post11485017
Pufferpunk
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At the very beginning of my experimental dosing of VC, I did start out using the generic human pills. I quickly found out what adding fillers & a product with a pH of 4 does to my tank.
With the $5 off coupon code, it only comes to $11 for a 16oz bottle of this from the recommended online vendor.
With the $5 off coupon code, it only comes to $11 for a 16oz bottle of this from the recommended online vendor.
the2ofus
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IMO; I would wait for i-herb...its ease of use is worth the couple days wait. I ordered on Thursday and it was in the mail box on Monday.
PUFFER should help you out though if you're going to substitute another VC for a little bit.....She has this down to a science.
Well, her science any way.:lol:
IBASSFSH
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I did a water 45 gallon water change today, and the ORP went down even when the VC is added a pre mixed for several hours prior to changing.
I have noticed that the ORP seems to go back up a little faster than the 1st dose. The skimmer did not go crazy on either dose. That's a good thing.
I use Instant Ocean, and have for years. I don't have to add anything to it, but I try to get the water as close to the tank water as possible as far as calcium and alkalinity.
My calcium runs close to 500 and alkalinity is around 9. Instant Ocean does not run that high on a new mix. I don't mind adding a cap full or so of the two part solution to boost it up some.
I feel a change in salt would be more detrimental to the system than adding a little to part to it. I have thought about buying some Reef crystals to mix with Instant Ocean, but changed my mind.
I was just trying to match the VC level a little to match the tank water.
Trying to avoid a sudden change in the tank water. It really did not make a big difference so I will probably continue to add to the sump, but I will also continue to add to fresh saltwater also.
I have noticed that the ORP seems to go back up a little faster than the 1st dose. The skimmer did not go crazy on either dose. That's a good thing.
I use Instant Ocean, and have for years. I don't have to add anything to it, but I try to get the water as close to the tank water as possible as far as calcium and alkalinity.
My calcium runs close to 500 and alkalinity is around 9. Instant Ocean does not run that high on a new mix. I don't mind adding a cap full or so of the two part solution to boost it up some.
I feel a change in salt would be more detrimental to the system than adding a little to part to it. I have thought about buying some Reef crystals to mix with Instant Ocean, but changed my mind.
I was just trying to match the VC level a little to match the tank water.
Trying to avoid a sudden change in the tank water. It really did not make a big difference so I will probably continue to add to the sump, but I will also continue to add to fresh saltwater also.
IBASSFSH
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I use ozone on my system, and the ORP readout is built into the RedSea Ozonizer. Basically that's it.
Jeff do you use a calcium reactor? I have heard some bad things lately about RC salt. A local dealer a couple of years ago had his shop display tank pretty much destroyed by the whole Kent salt ordeal also.
Jeff do you use a calcium reactor? I have heard some bad things lately about RC salt. A local dealer a couple of years ago had his shop display tank pretty much destroyed by the whole Kent salt ordeal also.
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