Treating with Vitamin C

[twodaend]

Pufferpunk,

I'm still stuck on the math, but I think I got this figured out. Based on the chart that has been floating around here it shows dosage for 100 gallons. I made a second chart that is based on 20 gallons which should be 1/5th or 20% of the 100 gallon chart. In order to measure 1/5 tsp, I did as your suggested and used the blue measuring spoon that comes with the Salifert test kit. It takes 5 of those little spoons to equal 1/4 tsp.

So to maintain a 5ppm of VC I would need about a spoon and a half (blue Salifert spoon). How does this sound to you or am I just being paranoid? I don't want to be adding more to my tank then I think by using the wrong measurements.

I also just received my bottle of VC, the one you recommended and I'll start dosing in a few days. I just received some new zoas in the mail today from a RC member and I want to see how they react before adding the VC.

1/5th of 1/4 tsp=222.4 mg.
(Use the blue measuring spoons that come with a Salifert Kits)

For every 20 gallons:

5 ppm ----- 378.4 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 757 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 1075 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 1514 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 1892.4 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 2271 mg VC
Dose 2x/day.

 

[hmmhmm]

no skimmer on my biocube yet...soon i hope
no algea bloom yet...only 2 days into it though...
i swish the 1/8tsp around in my back 1st chamber so it mixes and goes through 2nd & 3rd before entering the tank.

i will post water parameters when i get home...

 

[cybrsufr]

The one step that keeps getting forgotten, is to covert the tank volume into Liters as mg/L is the same as ppm. So the correct amount based on a 75G volume should be

75G * 3.7 (conversion to Liters) * 5 (desired ppm of VC) = 1387mg a day.

 

[fishkid6692]

it seems like the slime algae on my sand has doubled after only 1 day of dosing. is this normal? will it stop?

 

[hmmhmm]

well i got home tonight...birdsnest is fine...polyps extending still...so i'll dose again tonight...

 

[r-balljunkie]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14282392#post14282392 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hmmhmm
well i got home tonight...birdsnest is fine...polyps extending still...so i'll dose again tonight...

yeppers, birdsnest seems to be the first to show reaction. must say, the softies in my tank look great. a couple of the SPS are getting mroe extensions, but not all. almost done, week 1
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[Pufferpunk]

Yes, the slime when you 1st dose is caused by nitrate dying off.

If you don't have a sump, dilute in tank or RO water & pour into a flowing stream in your tank.

If you do have a sump, pour in rightr before your punp, the pump will mix it.

Do not change the dosing amounts, it has already been converted for gallons.

I hope I covered everything.

 

[cybrsufr]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14282879#post14282879 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk

Do not change the dosing amounts, it has already been converted for gallons.

Sorry Puffer, I was just trying to show how you can calculate the exact amount for your tank instead of guesstimating using a 100G base. I know a lot of us do have the math skills and like my system for example has a Total water volume of 273G after rock and sand in display and sump. so if I use the 100G baseline in the cart I would be close but not exact (not that it has to be exact). I did not mean to confuse anyone at all.

 

[Pufferpunk]

Ok, I thought you were changing it. don't want folks to get confused. I figured, 100g was a good starting point--good to divide from.

 

[kev2me]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14279379#post14279379 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Genetics
You know, I bet if you cut out the instructions being posted twice every page you could probably make this 30 pages less of reading...

Someone who posts here everyday could just put it in their signature. Not sure if that violates any RC rules though.

I just ordered some Thursday night, tracking says it'll be here next Thursday... I have all softies due to my seahorses, so I'll let you know what happens to my zoos and leathers.

 

[buckeyegirl]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14268542#post14268542 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk
I haven't been able to do the math but I dose between 1/8 & 1/4 tsp 2x/day in a 15g tank. To beat zoapox, I dosed an entire 1/4 tsp.

That is 10ppm and 20 ppm, reversing the formula from the Living Reefs article.

"Multiply that gallonage by the concentration you need to achieve and multiply that number by 3.785 to give you the number of liters you are dealing with or treating. Parts per million and milligrams per liter are the same amounts expressed differently. To achieve the correct result though we need to convert from gallons to liters, hence the multiplication by 3.785."

1/4 tsp = 1112 mg, divided by 3.785 =293.8, divided by 15 gallons = 19.6 ppm.

I posted in this thread a couple months ago with not-so-good results....after I started dosing, my tank exploded in slime and everything looked worse. I think I increased my dosage WAY too quickly for my tank (the same article recommends going up to 50 ppm in 4 days). I'm trying again, but much more slowly. I dosed 2.5 ppm for 2 days, and am going to dose 5 ppm for 2 days (today and tomorrow), and increase by 2.5 ppm every 2 days until I either see improvement or too much slime then I'll keep dosing but stop increasing, instead of just stopping cold turkey like I did last time. Does that sound good?

Two of my Zoa colonies are looking healthy, most look OK but are not growing, and a couple more are hardly opening and the polyps are shrinking when they do open. Will take some before pictures when my lights come on.

Pufferpunk, I think it is great that you are still here and trying to educate people with your experiences despite the flack you get sometimes. I would be crying in my corner by now :lol: (and Fireman Jeff has your back )

 

[OCEAN SIZE]

Pufferpunk just needs to post tank shots then the critics and doubters fade back to the woodwork.

 

[Pufferpunk]

Someone who posts here everyday could just put it in their signature. Not sure if that violates any RC rules though.

I tried that but since there is a link to the I-herb site, so they said no. I still can't get this as a sticky here either. It was proposed as thread of the month but lost. Could try that again though!

Pufferpunk, I think it is great that you are still here and trying to educate people with your experiences despite the flack you get sometimes. I would be crying in my corner by now (and Fireman Jeff has your back )

I'm a bit too old & thick-skinned for that! I appreciate everything Jeff does for me. He will be caring for my 8 tanks as I go on a dive trip next week. :fun5: Being sure VC is dosed every day

 

[cybrsufr]

He will be caring for my 8 tanks as I go on a dive trip next week.

I am so Jealous, I have not been in the water for almost a year. Having Bubble withdrawls and miss taking my UW photos.. Where ya heading too if I may ask.

 

[Pufferpunk]

St Croix, on the Nekton liveaboard.

 

[petpoor]

Locally I can find calcium ascorbate powder with no rosehips but it does have citrus bioflavonoids (whatever that is) would this work as well since it is not sodium ascorbate ???? Also can find ascorbic acid powder but I am sure I would have to buffer it to not affect ph is this correct ???

Thanks,
Tom

 

[Pufferpunk]

Pure Calcium ascorbate with nothing else in there is fine. You may have to adjust the dosage, according the mg of VC in 1/4 tsp.

 

[Genetics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14286861#post14286861 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by petpoor
Locally I can find calcium ascorbate powder with no rosehips but it does have citrus bioflavonoids (whatever that is) would this work as well since it is not sodium ascorbate ???? Also can find ascorbic acid powder but I am sure I would have to buffer it to not affect ph is this correct ???

Thanks,
Tom

It just means that the VC was isolated from a citrus fruit and that the isolation produced a low level contaminant that couldn't be separated. The stuff Puffer links online is actually produced from glucose and therefore will not have the bioflavonoid or rosehip contamination.

 

[Logzor]

I posted this in general but figured I should post it here as well, amazing skimmer response from vitamin c dosing:

I usually skim pretty wet almost to where the bubble are about to spill over. After dosing Vitamin C for a week I found it just ended up filling up my skimmer cup and overflowing back into the sump.

I tuned it down and this is the result. Ive never had skim like this before!

This is all particle filled froth with some nice skimmate at the bottom:

 

[Pufferpunk]

YEP