Treating with Vitamin C

Man I have one more thing I have a large mille colony about 10" tall 10" across it was white 2 weeks ago and now is all brownish pink, everywhere except the stem the base of it is still bright green and pink around the rock it stuck to, I don't know how I missed this in the previous reply. I have to state that I am also dosing the amino acid from brightwell started same day as the Vit C it says its free form amino acid for all corals. i dose 4 ml a day skimmer off for an hour while I do it. Anyone see white stringies not long like 1/4 inch or less all over there corals when you dose the Vit C? I noticed it a few hours ago.
The white stringy things are either a bacterial bloom or corals sliming. Probably a bacterial bloom from over dosing vitamin c. Either way, it's not harmful at all. It's an indicator that you need to stop dosing for a couple days until things settle down. Then start back up slowly. Overdosing a carbon source has caused this in the past and it's always due to a massive (beneficial) bacteria bloom caused by the VC. It's covered in the VC dosing guide that Pufferpunk posts up every so often.
 
Jeff, Isn't that the nitrate-eating bacteria developing & that's why your nitrate goes away? This is why it's so important to have a skimmer, to remove this stuff!

Probably should post that again, for posterity:
VITAMIN C DOSING CHART
Here are the directions:
Use this product:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=10178&at=0
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To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily (down to 2-3 ppm works also). If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.

Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.

You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc.

Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.

For every 100 gallons:

5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC

After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day.

Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 or lower if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread, also for better health/coloration of your fish. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Higher doses of as much as 100ppm (for about 2 weeks) for fish illness. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
* If you notice an algae bloom (white stringy stuff) or increased scum on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water then pour into overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors. *Keep your Vitamin C bottle in the refrigerator. * If you have a question, ask here. I do my best to check these threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.

Be sure to take some "before" pics!
 
dose anyone dose the kent marine vitamin c ? or even the brightwells brand? Does this vitamin c show the same results?
 
If you read the chart I just posted, you will see the amounts I dose. I have been adding 1 tsp = 4,500mg of Asorbic acid to my tank, 2x/day. look at the concentration of VC in the products you are asking about & tell me if you think it's worth the $$$?
 
If you read the chart I just posted, you will see the amounts I dose. I have been adding 1 tsp = 4,500mg of Asorbic acid to my tank, 2x/day. look at the concentration of VC in the products you are asking about & tell me if you think it's worth the $$$?

I was not asking about vitamin c tablets. I was asking if dosing the vitamin c products for saltwater would give you the same results as the tablets. Products such as the Kent Marine, Brightwells, Warner Marine etc.
 
Just VC did this to your tank? I started last night and hope for the same results.

Yes! Do not expect it to go away immediately. It took months for mine to get down to what it's at now, but worth the wait! It would not appear to kill existing algae, but keeps new algae from growing. A couple times a week I would go in and manually remove as much algae as I could, including scrubing it away with a toothbrush. That seemed to make all the difference.

Good luck :bounce2:


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Originally Posted by Pufferpunk View Post
If you read the chart I just posted, you will see the amounts I dose. I have been adding 1 tsp = 4,500mg of Asorbic acid to my tank, 2x/day. look at the concentration of VC in the products you are asking about & tell me if you think it's worth the $$$?
I was not asking about vitamin c tablets. I was asking if dosing the vitamin c products for saltwater would give you the same results as the tablets. Products such as the Kent Marine, Brightwells, Warner Marine etc.


A friend of mine tried using kent marine and said she noticed a difference in coral color and polyp extension. She had to stop using it after almost two weeks, however, because it messed with her pH and KH. Apparently it is not buffered.
 
I was rtunning the skimmer but it went haywire it looked like a a capucinno with all foam and had to turn it off the foam got 2 feet high when I noticed it. i turned it on today all foam but not overflowing no skimate trippy. I dosed 2 tsp yesterday and also some amino acid a few minutes after. How do you avoid the foamy reaction?
 
Yeah I am over dosing I need to split it and dose it 2 time a day...dang it I hate when I skim through and miss the real important part sorry Vitamin C demi gods. I will see what develops.
 
I was not asking about vitamin c tablets. I was asking if dosing the vitamin c products for saltwater would give you the same results as the tablets. Products such as the Kent Marine, Brightwells, Warner Marine etc.
I don't see why they wouldn't but I'd have to buy a bottle/month.
 
Your skimmer is collecting all the material & extra bacteria produced by the VC feeding it. This bacteria is what is eating the excess nutrients = nitrate. Try to dial down your skimmer. YOU MUST KEEP SKIMMING!
 
Skimming resumed last night all normal a bit more head than normal but I am getting the green stuff again. I will resume dosing tonight.
 
I figured that Jeff. Are you keeping your bottle then? I've got extra.
Wicked, Can you dial back the skimmer to skim thick?
 
I gave it to Andy. I could use a bottle if you have an extra. I'm planning on using Tropic Marin Bio-Actif salt which, I believe, has some organic carbon in it. I may go really low dose this time at the beginning.
The skimmer I am planning will be able to keep up and is fully adjustable.
 
I have a lame-o skimmer it skims rather well, but its limited in options it's one of those wet or dry guys you have to pull the tube higher to be more wet so are you saying more wet or more dry Puff?
 
Was thinking of starting the vitamin C supplement

I have a 29G using prime treated tap water. it's a skimmerless and refugeless tank that is doing ok/great. I just want a little extra color and growth

Has anyone ran the VC without a skimmer/refuge and using tap water?

any suggestion's on a starting dose? I'm assuming it might be less then a tank with a skimmer

How is the Vc added to the tank? is it premixed or just dumped in dry?
 
Has anyone ran the VC without a skimmer/refuge and using tap water?

any suggestion's on a starting dose? I'm assuming it might be less then a tank with a skimmer

How is the Vc added to the tank? is it premixed or just dumped in dry?

Its not a great idea to add organics without a skimmer. Otherwise you are just increasing the bioload and will have to possibly compensate with increased water changes.

I used 0.1ppm and had great results with my softies.
 
Was thinking of starting the vitamin C supplement

I have a 29G using prime treated tap water. it's a skimmerless and refugeless tank that is doing ok/great. I just want a little extra color and growth

Has anyone ran the VC without a skimmer/refuge and using tap water?

any suggestion's on a starting dose? I'm assuming it might be less then a tank with a skimmer

How is the Vc added to the tank? is it premixed or just dumped in dry?

As I understand, VC is a carbon source meaning it will feed bacteria and thus deplete oxygen levels in the water (like dosing vodka or sugar would). For this reason I don't think it is recommended to dose it on a skimmerless tank, unless you are providing extra aeration by other means (airstones or something).
 
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