Tunze Nano wave box

[meshwheel]

Hi guys,
I just picked up a nano wave box. Used with the manual dial on it with the photo cell.
This thing is awesome!!!!!! I now have almost a 1.5 inch wave in my new 65 gallon 36x18x24 tank.
It's going to be a full on SPS tank with a few other LPS corals. At any rate, this thing is rocking my tank so much, it alone with my 2 inlets may be enough!!!!
What do you guys think. What a fantastic product! I am sold!!!!
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[meshwheel]

Sorry guys,

 

[meshwheel]

Here's the whole tank. First video. Had it about 1.25 inches!!!!

 

[rvitko]

I got an invalid format error when I tried to view the video.

Thank you for the feedback. Nice beetle by the way. Is that your car?

 

[meshwheel]

Hi Roger,
Yes sir! A work in progress! I built the motor completely myself. I am a engineer by trade and a avid mechanic too. 2165 w/ dual 48's. Close to 200 hp. Quite the little beast!
Roger, with the wavemaker, would you say a Tunze 6095 on the other end and I should be good to go?
Tank is 36x18x24. I really want the current right. Will be a sps tank with a few LPS in the lower light areas.
Thank you

 

[rvitko]

That is a surprising amount of hp from an air cooled vw motor but that is also a lot of displacement. I have a 67 Mercedes 200D that I have restored over the last 8 years and I am building up an engine for it, but it is slow going. The original 2L diesel works but 0-60 is literally 30 seconds (57hp) and on a hill forget it, you probably will roll back without a running start and not going past 2nd gear. I am building up an early 2.4L diesel with parts from a 3L Turbo diesel, basically taking the intake and exhaust, sawing a cylinder port off and using the heavier duty pistons and rods and hardening the crank and adding the oil cooling jets. As far as I have gotten is sourcing, cleaning and rebuilding my parts, the machinist has been sitting on it for 9 months but he is the only guy in town with the skill to make something like this happen. I am hoping to end up with a roughly 120 hp 2.4L turbo diesel but it won't have any intercoolers, no cam mods, just stock, mild and hopefully long lived and with enough power to not be run off the road.

I would think a single 6095 and the wavebox should be a good set up considering the return flow as well. You will want a seperate controller for the 6095 as combining it with the wavebox will only make the wave bigger. You could get a seperate 7092 or put them both together on a 7096.

 

[meshwheel]

Roger,
Very interesting on the diesel motor! Diesel is indeed the way to go. I am sure that motor will handle alot more HP. Simply increasing air flow and exhaust SHOULD give you more power and better mileage. IF you keep your foot out of it....lol. You could probably increase boost as well. Many times just swapping out impellers will do the trick. You will have to source all of this as I am sure you know. However, turbo diesel motors have great potential. I would think what you are aiming for HP wise should be easy!
Keep with all Mercedes motor parts, as China copies everything and it's usually junk. I am sure you know all this. Find a way to change to larger injectors if at all possible. Thats probably good for a 50 hp increase alone!
When its all said and done a larger motor swap may be cheaper and easier like what you are doing.
Would love to see pics of the car. Those older Mercedes are built like tanks! I love them!
On the wavemaker: I want the largest wave possible Roger. I can get almost a 1.5 inch wave with the water below my prefilter box.
Once I implement the box, I get 3/4 inch! The box overflow grates on the left and right sides are robbing a lot of the waves momentum. IF I cover the prefilters left side grates(Closest to the wavebox,) it boosts it right back up to a 1 inch wave!
If I cover the right side grates opposit of the wavebox, I get even larger but a little choppy on top.
So what you are saying is I can get the Tunze 6095 in total synch with the wavebox itself??? Mind you , this is a older box with controller 6091
I want maximum flow for all around current in the tank Roger. It seems to me the larger the wave, the more flow everywhere.
So whats your recommendation?
Thank you Roger very much! PS Car runs 12.99 in quarter mile on street tires and full exhaust.

 

[rvitko]

You would use the slave cable on the controller to run the 6095, but, just keep in mind that 1) big waves stress the seams and shorten the tank life, I would say it is prudent to not excede 1.5", 1.5" is 8 roughly 8 gallons of water on your size tank or about 65 lbs slamming back and forth. 2) a wave has no direction and a wiser use of the 6095 will be directional flow to sweep up what the wave lifts and suspends. I think a 3/4-1" wave is fine and sufficient to do the job a wave should do, keeping flow to every crevice and lift and suspend detritus.

You are correct, it would have been easier to move the radiator to the front of the cross support and relocate the oil filter and drop in a 3L diesel off the bat, but I like the vintage stock look and the 1974 240 D engine has the same oil filter position, they moved that in later years but this kept it out of the way of the steering box and support members. Every part will be a Mercedes part except for the oil jets, for those the VW/Volvo type lend themselves better to retrofitting since they just use a hollow bolt into the oil galley and have a bendable copper nozzle, the Mercedes require two holes, one is just to secure it and the machining has to be too precise, without a template it is near impossible. Since the 300D is basically a 240D with one extra cylinder, most parts can interchange and in later years they hardened the cams and lifters on the 240, so a later cam solves that and the crank just needs a surface hardening treatment. I have seen people get 400+hp from similar set ups with huge turbos, direct port water injectors and souped up injector pumps and I have a friend building up such a monster from a 300D (he got a Dieselmieken pump from Sweden and it is pretty awesome) but these engines also don't last long and blow out the stock transmissions and axles. Mercedes will even tell you that the reason those 240D's and 300D's lasted million plus miles is it was not even pushed, the displacement was huge for the power produced and the modern equivalents won't last that long.

That is an awesome quarter mile speed and I like that outwardly, it looks pretty stock. I tend to like everything to look like it did when it left the factory.

 

[rvitko]

I left out a factor in my math, it is 2 gallons back and forth, or 16 lbs,

(36 * 18 * 1.5)/2 = cubic inches of wave

CI/231= gallons

 

[meshwheel]

Roger,
Sounds great! So what controller could I get away with for just running the 6095? What would you recommend and what settings?
Thank you!

 

[meshwheel]

yep, big HP is always a sacrifice Roger! No doubt about. But smart driving does wonders as well.

 

[meshwheel]

Also, tank is extra thick acrylic!!!! Bring on "The Wave"......lol

 

[rvitko]

You don't need a controller to run the pump so you could get just the pump and set a constant speed and think on the controller. The 7092 would be the most basic, it has pulse mode and wave mode. The 7096 won't offer any more functionality unless you ad another pump, but you could clean up to one controller, so channel 2 runs the wavebox and channel 1 the 6095. The 7092 can only run either or, so you can't do both at the same time.

 

[meshwheel]

Roger,
Alright, I will go the 7096 so I can clean up to one for now. If I ever decide I want another pump, I can put the old controller back on the wavemaker and use the 7096 to control both new pumps.
Sounds good, and I am glad I have a acrylic tank! Much much stronger for the wave. Should not be a issue at all.
Alright, I am going to go ahead and order.
Thank you Roger!