Tunze Stream control?

The profiles do count as program statements. It is possible in the future that we could optimize the firmware so that they don't impact the number program statements available, but that firmware enhancement is not on the immediate horizon.
If you are going to use an AC adapter it should be 9V DC, 3.5 mm, tip positive and at least 200 mA.

Curt
 
hmmm, it just occurred to me that the control voltage for the devices is 1 - 10v, so how does a 9v power supply manage that ? I just didn't expect a fly back transformer or anything like that at such a small voltage and employed in such an application. Or am I just overthinking everything ? (I was expecting a 12 v power supply, sinmilar to what the Tunzes supply, IIRC). Thanks again for your time to respond :)
 
I just setup my 2x 6055s with aquasurf on my 70 gallon tech tank. All I can say is I'm in love. The resonance wave motion is hypnotic. Very very nice!
 
does the resonance wave work better when it is coming from one side only.. rather than each at opposite ends..????
 
You can get a larger wave if the pumps are on the same side.

Tom, there are many ways to increase the voltage if needed - DC/DC convertered, charge pump, etc.

Curt
 
Thanks Curt. Just making sure we got the right xformer :)

EDIT : You know, I almost jumped ship to another controller manufacturer recently. Your willingness to provide cable pinouts and xformer data (instead of just trying to sell me the items) has made me glad that I chose to stay with NeptuneSys :). One of these days when we are down in the SJ area I am going to have t stop in and say hello :)
 
I am running this program:

If Time > 09:00 Then WV1 PF1
If Time > 20:30 Then WV1 PF3
If Time > 09:00 Then WV2 PF2
If Time > 20:30 Then WV2 PF4
Pmp MODE sD for PF1
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF1
Pmp OSC 12/12/00 for PF1
Pmp MODE sD for PF2
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF2
Pmp OSC 00/12/12 for PF2
Pmp MODE SD for PF3
Pmp Int 30/50 for PF3
Pmp OSC 20/20/00 for PF3
Pmp MODE SD for PF4
Pmp Int 30/50 for PF4
Pmp OSC 00/20/20 for PF4

I get HUGE waves at night and mediocre during the day. I think there's more current during day but hard to tell with how large the waves are at night. They slosh and spill out sometimes.

Did I do something wrong here?

Pumps are opposite and 5 feet apart.
 
If I read this correctly you need to change your PF2 and PF3 definitions.

Pmp MODE SD for PF2
Pmp MODE sD for PF3

Although you really don't need to change PF3 I suppose, it would just be synchronizing with your PF2 profile, which isn't running. But you definitely do need to change PF2 so that it synchronizes with PF1, or it would be next to impossible to get the resonate wave going.

Try that out and let us know. :)
 
I think that the resonate period is wrong for profiles PF1 & PF2. A 5 foot tank should have resonanace at 1.0 second on, and 1 second off. I think that the PF3 & PF4 are generating a large wave because it is running at 2X the resonate frequency and still getting constructive interference. You need to first find the resonate frequency of the tank.

Curt
 
the odds run together and the evens on another time. So I'm not that making changes to PF1 and PF2 is going to help. That would change both my day and night schedules.
 
That is not true. At 9:00 am your program has profiles PF1 & PF2 running on WV1 & WV2 respectively.

Curt
 
ok i am still trying to fig out this programming lol(little slow...) Here is what i have....

1 ACjr no serial port
2 tunze 6055 and AS
Teklight 24 with 2 plugs
return pump from sump
fuge light
Heater
Fan

total of 8 timers....

how many statements do you think i will need will i even have enough to get a small wave going?

i want to run a day mode and night mode for my pumps if at all possible if not then i will just have them shut off when the lights go out as well.

my current settings:
Lights on 1130(actinics) 1230(days)
lights off 930(days) 1030(actinics)
pump 1 on 1130 off 930
pump 2 on 1230 off 930
heat on at 76.9 off at 77.5
fan on at 80 off at 79
fuge light on at 1030 off at 1130
sump pump always on
when feed sump pump off, both tunze off.

skimmer is connected to seperate strip

I currently have one pump on each pane left and right side of tank, not really facing each other but i would like to make a tiny wave, shoudl i face them directly at eachother and should the pumps be set in the middle of the panes or can they be towards the back, i appreciate any help :) thanks
 
Here is an example of a wave in the day time and a gentle flow pattern at night. I used the timer DLT to indicate DayLighT (IE: your "days" lights timer). You can use the Actinics as your time for the wave to change, but I like to let the fish wake up a little with some light before changing the flow patterns too dramatically. You can also use If Time > in place of the If Timer statements.

Pmp Mode sD for PF1
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF1
Pmp OSC 13/13/00 for PF1
Pmp Mode SD for PF2
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF2
Pmp OSC 00/13/13 for PF2
Pmp Mode sd for PF3
Pmp Int 030/050 for PF3
Pmp OSC 15/30/15 for PF3
If Timer DLT = ON Then PM1 PF1
If Timer DLT = ON Then PM2 PF2
If Timer DLT = OFF Then PM1 PF3
If Timer DLT = OFF Then PM2 PF3


This will have a wave during daylight hours (needing to be tuned for your tank, for resonant frequency {OSC statments for PF1 and PF2] and Intensity {INT statements}) and a gentle 30 seconds @ 30% - 30 seconds @ 50% alternating flow "night mode".

This required 13 statement lines and 2 timers. The timers are

PM1 E01 //Pump #1
PM2 E02 //Pump #2




If you want to break up things during the day with a stronger alternating flow (30% - 100%) then you can use the following additional profile :

Pmp Mode sd for PF4
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF4
Pmp OSC 05/20/15 for PF4


HTH
 
starting to make sense ;) thanks again tom :) you following me!!?? haha j/k thanks bud i appreciate it. will be setting up the AC tomorrow my tank is only 24" long so i will have to see what works best to setup some waves, not large bc the water level is maybe 1-2" below the rim. thanks again.
 
if I had to guess for a starting point for a 2' long tank I would say 4 sec off and 3 secs on (based on the published humbers for 3' or greater tanks).

So the statements would then be


Pmp OSC 04/03/00 for PF1
Pmp OSC 00/03/04 for PF2

But you would need to test that. And for smaller waves you would definitely want to reduce the Intensity, but I couldn't guess to what, but I suppose a good starting point would be 70 percentage max ?

So

Pmp Int 030/070 for PF1
and
Pmp Int 030/070 for PF2

Although I think you can take the Tunze's all the way to 000 when using them in a wave/pulse function. I saw several posts about this further back in this thread, yet I still see example statements from others and Neptune that use 30% as the bottom end, even on a puls/wave statement.

Another way for smaller waves is to double up the frequency for your tank, giving twice as many, smaller waves than if you ran at the actual resonant. So if tweaking the OSC and INT statements above don't give you what you need, try these OSC statements (using the resonant times for a 4' tank, basically double yours) *from the AquaSurf 1.0c Manual*


Pmp OSC 08/08/00 for PF1
Pmp OSC 00/08/08 for PF2

You may still need to tweak the on times (the middle #) down to 7 seconds, it is hard to tell, you will just need to experiment a little. And this is all assuming I read everything correctly about being able to double up the frequency. Let me know if you try it how it works out for you.
 
ugh.. You are correct sir. I need to go over this program again and sort it out. I am very pleased with the product though.
 
Could you suggest a program that allows for a simple day/night setting with maximum day action and minimal night? This is for a 5' tank and the program I use gets the huge waves at night.

I'm thinking this might simplify it as I don't thin I need any night wave action:

If Time > 09:00 Then WV1 PF1
If Time > 20:30 Then WV1 PF3
If Time > 09:00 Then WV2 PF2
If Time > 20:30 Then WV2 PF3
Pmp MODE sD for PF1
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF1
Pmp OSC 12/12/00 for PF1
Pmp MODE SD for PF2 -------changed to synch with #1
Pmp Int 030/100 for PF2
Pmp OSC 00/12/12 for PF2
Pmp MODE sD for PF3 -------removed synch
Pmp Int 30/50 for PF3
Pmp OSC 20/20/00 for PF3
 
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