Typhoon time

Paul B

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Today I decided to have a typhoon in my reef. I do this sometimes twice a year and IMO it is the main secret as to what has kept my tank going so long.
I run a reverse undergravel filter like almost everyone on here! No? Oh I thought everyone did. In any case, this is what I do to keep the tank going. As you can see I have two diatom filters running at the same time. I could do it with one but it takes twice as long. A diatom filter removes anything smaller than a micron which is much smaller than Paris Hilton's dog.
I could do this with any canister filter but I was near the diatom filters so that is what I use.
Yes it does remove plenty of pods but their cousins will re populate the tank in no time as I have been doing this for almost fifty years and have not had a problem yet. My mandarins give me dirty looks but they will get over it.
My purpose is not to get every bit of detritus out of the tank as that will never happen, but I mainly want to open up channels in the gravel and clean out as many pores in the rock as I can. With the two diatom filters they will clear the tank in about half an hour, then I stir it again. I do this until I get tired or decide to do something else but it could take all day as I don't have to sit here and watch the particles going into the filter.
The numerous bristle worms hate this as they swim like a brick. I am sure my shrimp/gobi combination also will not like this and I am not surer where they are.
After the water is well stirred and I feel all I hit most of the gravel, I use the last few passes to clean off the rocks and corals. They close up during this and text me things that I can't post here but it must be done.
The sea has typhoons all the time and I have been underwater right after some of these, believe me, my diatom filter doesn't wreck as much havoc as a good typhoon. I know some people use a turkey baster for this and if you are keeping turkeys,that may work, but in a tank, especially an old tank, you need a "MAN" filter with a decent pump and not a Sissy turkey baster that was built for "Girly Men".
One of my chalk bass was so excited he just jumped into the algae trough, but I coaxed him back into the tank, I think he enjoyed the trip.
The only time I can't do this is when I have bluestriped pipefish as they disappear during this. I would imagine their tiny gill openings get clogged with muck. Every time I did this and had those pipefish, I lost them.
After this is over, the tank will look much better and the corals look much better.
Nothing lasts without maintenance and with my system I never see any detritus because it hides in between the gravel grains. :eek2:

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I figured as much. Use to use a DE filter when I ran a fish lab and it made the water crystal clear. I just wish they weren't so expensive to purchase.
 
Nothing worse than trapped crap. :D I blast my rocks with a powerhead to loosen up the detritus. Plain old hob filter though. No diatom filter here.
 
great.... now something else I feel like I need to buy..

Trying to read up about diatom filters now. Vortex is the only maker?

Read a lot of bad reviews on the vortex and having to fix parts. I rather not get into any of that..
 
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great.... now something else I feel like I need to buy..

You do not need a diatom filter, any canister filter can be used to clean the rock and tank. If you run a DSB you can't do it anyway and the tank will have a limited lifespan anyway.
By the way, this is what I do, I don't urge, advise, push, advocate, recommend, condone, authorize, or tell anyone to do anything. I just show my methods and you can do what you want with it. I also have a UG filter, I am probably the only one and I don't recommend that either.
(I like having the oldest tank on here) :dance:
 
Wow, I haven't had a diatom filter since the 70's in the Discus days. I wonder what I did with it.
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Paul, I did the same thing last night with my
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Turkey baster.
 
I have had many diatoms, they are not built very well and definately not for salt water. I have I think 4 of them left in various stages of rusting. Out of the 4, I made 2 that work well enough to use and I built the bags for them. They leak and overheat and need to be oiled all the time. They do a fantastic job and when they are gone, I will build a better model.
 
Nice! I have a power head on a stick that I use to blow the crap around then I throw an emperor 400 on the front of the tank over night. Always looks do good in the morning.
 
Wow diatom filters... That brings back some good ole memories. I remember trying to clean one out this one time and I dropped it and the glass shattered everywhere....And I was bare foot.

Do they even still make these? I still have the glass jar/canister part somewhere that I uses for misc nuts and bolts and things, but the motor part has long since rusted away and tossed.
 
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I completely agree with you on the typhoon every now and then to stirrrr everything up. The conditions that we give these corals and fish are second to none, they should be happy to live in our homes!!:dance:
 
Paul I recall a thread by Eric (username Hugo) from years back mentioning this to be very beneficial for our reefs. I think you may have even participated in the thread...

I try to do this for my own reef tank once in a while. But since I cannot find a Diatom filter here in the UK, I use a filter filled/jammed packed full of filter floss.
 
It was probably me years ago that participated in that thread as I have been doing it forever. Any canister filter will work and I doubt a tank will get very old without doing this.
 
Hey Paul, what would you put in the canister filter to "trap the crap", just old-fashioned filter floss? I am overdue for a storm and you finally shamed me (and apparently others) into retiring the sissybaster and getting a manfilter going.

signed,
Tropical Storm GirlyRandy
 
You can use sand or filter floss. But you have to remove the thing and clean it as soon as your done. You can also use sponge. I used to use that spongy stuff that you seal the seams around air conditioners with which is just foam looking stuff that they make insulation out of.
 
It stormed for about 5 hours yesterday in my reef. I used a magnum 350 filter with the water polishing cartridge and it was amazing how much crud was laying around unseen in the tank. The fish were clearly upset, but they have short memories it seems since they ate as soon as I stopped messing around in there. The starry blenny even put on his breeding colors and was clearly fired up once the storm stopped. I am anxious to see if it looks any different in there today once the lights come on.
 
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