tyree most wanted capricornis

[FragGuy]

Vin,

I have said it many times and will continue to stress it. This coral needs a good supply of Actinic lighting to make the green really glow and the purple almost pink. If I recall correctly even the Leng Sy colony, which was grown under 20k bulbs, also had actinic supplementation.

Are the polyps still bright green/yellow? Why don't you send us an updated picture? I am curious about what it looks like.

I just rescued a large mother colony from someone that acquired it as a frag from my mother colony at least two years back and it two was a sort of tan olive (Not even that green) but boy the polyps where really bright. I guess they contrast even more when the background tissue is not as green. He was growing it under MH as well. Any way it's been in my system for a little over a month now and I can really see the difference in color. I wish I had taken a picture of the before.

Here is the after:

It still has some more coloring up to do. I will post the grandma colony in the next post so that you can see the difference. This is the original frag that has grown into my biggest mother colony, about 12 inches across.

Rafael

 

[FragGuy]

and here is grandma. You can see how much richer the green has become after years of growing under two actinic whites and one Super Actinic blue URI VHO.

 

[playa]

Rafael woudl you say the frag(almost a colony)that I got from you is a Foliosa?

Luis

 

[FragGuy]

That would be my guess or the similar aequituberculata. But you know how identifying these things go. Even the experts are not always 100% sure or correct.

 

[FragGuy]

Getting off the subject of color and lighting for a minute, this is my latest creation:

 

[joe123987]

Rafael

Love that combo!

For everyone else's benefit I was lucky enough to get both of these corals from Rafael (Fragguy) - they were too big to call them frags. His pictures do not do them justice. The Rafael Purple Rim Cap is extremely flouresent under actinics and the Red Cap is the "deepest" red I have ever seen. I have mine separated but now that I've see the picture - you have me thinking......

Both corals were excellent about maintaining the colors when shipped and during acclimation.

joe123987

 

[dmorel]

ROAB,
check my avatar...
That corals been floating around the rochester based upstate reef society for a few years now. If it ain't IT, it's pretty darn close!
-dm

 

[gcarroll]

I've seen many pics of the purple edge from fragguy and I just don't see the sumularity to the Tyree cap. However the purple edge from fragguy is a beautiful piece.

 

[FragGuy]

gcaroll,

Thanks for the compliment on the frag.

A while back I posted an image that I composed of the Leng Sy frag with a super imposed image of one of my frags that showed how similar the two are. (It's on page 7 towards the bottom of this thread.)

This can be debated until our grand children are cross pollinating corals in the future, so I am not going to go there. I just want to point out that, I as well as others recognize that there are many variations out there of Green and Purple rim morphs (I have three different ones that I grow) of this coral. You have to look carefully to distinguish them apart.

If someone does not care about having the perfect match then great. I personally like and value all of the different color and shape variants that I have because I like to collect different color morphs. I am upto about 15 different ones in total.

Attached is the image.

Rafael

 

[gcarroll]

Thanks FragGuy,
Now I see the resemblance. In the frags that people were posting I just didn't see the nodule growth.

 

[FragGuy]

Greg,

Exactly the point I was trying to make.
Another distinguishing characteristic is the color difference of the individual polyps vs. the rest of the background tissue. On two of my other Green PE morphs the polyps are the exact same color as the rest of the green tissue while on this one the polyps are very light fluorescent green almost white.

 

[DALE WILEY]

whats makes a sps so rare if its being raised on farms what makes a purple monster so rare if its in the valida family. Are the sps being priced so high because they are giving generic names by the owner. Rare is rare i do not feel that these farmers that are selling stuff as rare is being very honest if it was collected once it can be collected again. I can see if these so called rare pieces were the last on the planet then yes I can see calling it rare but would it be up for sale . Rare is a 1821 coin only 3 on the planet rare is a T-Rey fossill found intack thats rare. Rare is not a name given to something because you have it. The leng sy cap,the purple monster and other so called rare sps should not be deemed rare until marine biologist deem them rare. The prices on some of this stuff is crazy .

This is my 2 cent worth
just my opinion

 

[Atticus]

I agree that rare may be an improper name. It should be "limited" as there are not many available. As for price it is the typical supply and demand curve. If there is more demand than supply the retailer can ask a premium for their product.

 

[Denzo]

Many people tend to confuse "value" and "rarity." Rarity does help the value increase. But value is different to each and every reefer. One person might see high value in montiporas, this might just be his/her preference. That person might be willing to shell out more cash for a nice piece than the next guy. Some people see value in the "purple monster, or the Leng Sy cap." The market dictates the prices.

 

[gcarroll]

A coral is only worth what the buyer is willing to pay for it.

 

[teevee]

whats makes a sps so rare if its being raised on farms what makes a purple monster so rare if its in the valida family. Are the sps being priced so high because they are giving generic names by the owner. Rare is rare i do not feel that these farmers that are selling stuff as rare is being very honest if it was collected once it can be collected again. I can see if these so called rare pieces were the last on the planet then yes I can see calling it rare but would it be up for sale . Rare is a 1821 coin only 3 on the planet rare is a T-Rey fossill found intack thats rare. Rare is not a name given to something because you have it. The leng sy cap,the purple monster and other so called rare sps should not be deemed rare until marine biologist deem them rare. The prices on some of this stuff is crazy .

This is my 2 cent worth
just my opinion

Boom! They're nice corals. But I feel like I'm browsing a combination of a secret OPEC meeting and a fight between two Hollywood actors at an after-Oscars party. If I had the money, I'd consider purchasing frags. But I don't think for a second these corals are truly rare.

 

[gpajon]

Boom! They're nice corals. But I feel like I'm browsing a combination of a secret OPEC meeting and a fight between two Hollywood actors at an after-Oscars party. If I had the money, I'd consider purchasing frags. But I don't think for a second these corals are truly rare.

I think you guys are reading a bit too deep into this. They are not rare but not commonly found in the Aquarium trade. If it were common say a Sarcophyton or Sinularia then it would not be that big a deal.Also the factthat the species is common means nothing either cause if you were paying close attention to the thread the issue is about a specific morph which in itself may be rare.

All I can say is as with everything in life if you don't like it don't buy it.

Gon

 

[JonL]

My local fish store always gets that stuff in for some reason. He had a blue cap one time he was gonna keep it but some chenise offered him 400 for it. he now has alot of pink caps. also carries greens and oranges and perps.
sorry if this was confusing blah blah blah

 

[ibew323]

i have some that ill be fragging soon....

 

[Konadog]

I know this is not an original, but to me, it looks just as nice. I got this quarter size frag about 3 months ago, and now its about 3 inches across.