Ultra Red Slime ???
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der_wille_zur_macht
Team RC
Don't buy it. Solve the source of the problem, instead of just treating the symptoms with magic chemicals.
I second this ^^^. Remove as much of the cyano as you can syphon off. Do that on a daily basis, and start running some phosphate removing media (phosban for example) and bump up your flow.
der_wille_zur_macht
Team RC
Let's take that to the next level - in order to beat these sorts of problems, you need to look at:
1) EVERYTHING you are putting in the tank - food, additives, water changes, topoff water, etc.
2) EVERYTHING you are taking out - skimming, chemical media, water changes, etc.
It's a simple equation. If you're putting more nutrients IN the tank than what you're taking OUT, you'll have problems like this.
1) EVERYTHING you are putting in the tank - food, additives, water changes, topoff water, etc.
2) EVERYTHING you are taking out - skimming, chemical media, water changes, etc.
It's a simple equation. If you're putting more nutrients IN the tank than what you're taking OUT, you'll have problems like this.
tspors
New member
Ronny I have read many of your posts and this the latest. I responded to you then and I cam copying what I said before here. Here is what I posted before. Funny thing is all the people above have been saying the same thing.:
I have been fighting this also. I would do the the 3 days no lights things would clear up, then return. I have a very good LFS owner here and we have chatted several times about this and what the root cause was. Nutrients seem to be the cause however, the light encourages the growth. Yes flow helps. So after we went step by step throught my system as to what the cause was there did not seem to be any system breakdown causing the nutrients. Then we got on the food. Along with various things I feed I do use frozen Mysis and the frozen Multi Pack cubes. Here is where mine was coming from.
1. The frozen Mysis have a lot of oil in them. I was not rinsing the cubes down. The oil in the tank was an un eaten nutrient. So I began rinsing in a net before feeding.
2. The frozen cubes are held together with gel. I was letting them competely melt before adding to tank. Thus leaving mostly liquid again un eaten nutrients. So I do not completely melt down now.
I did the 3 days lights out. Cleaned the tank like always on Saturday morning blowing the rockes off. The cyno has been gone. My parameters during this were always good so skip the test find your root cause. It took me 6+ months to figure mine out so run through your system and your habbits. Most probelms like mine are self induced. Like said above complete darkeness no food for 3 days will kill it but if the the cause is still happening it will return. Good Luck
Red Slime Remover,will work however, if the source of the nutrient continues it may come back.
I have been fighting this also. I would do the the 3 days no lights things would clear up, then return. I have a very good LFS owner here and we have chatted several times about this and what the root cause was. Nutrients seem to be the cause however, the light encourages the growth. Yes flow helps. So after we went step by step throught my system as to what the cause was there did not seem to be any system breakdown causing the nutrients. Then we got on the food. Along with various things I feed I do use frozen Mysis and the frozen Multi Pack cubes. Here is where mine was coming from.
1. The frozen Mysis have a lot of oil in them. I was not rinsing the cubes down. The oil in the tank was an un eaten nutrient. So I began rinsing in a net before feeding.
2. The frozen cubes are held together with gel. I was letting them competely melt before adding to tank. Thus leaving mostly liquid again un eaten nutrients. So I do not completely melt down now.
I did the 3 days lights out. Cleaned the tank like always on Saturday morning blowing the rockes off. The cyno has been gone. My parameters during this were always good so skip the test find your root cause. It took me 6+ months to figure mine out so run through your system and your habbits. Most probelms like mine are self induced. Like said above complete darkeness no food for 3 days will kill it but if the the cause is still happening it will return. Good Luck
Red Slime Remover,will work however, if the source of the nutrient continues it may come back.
Sisterlimonpot
Premium Member
Hey Ronny,
Are you dosing with vodka? I can't remember.... But Since I have been dosing with vodka (2-3 months now) red and green cyano is eradicated from my tank. I had it really bad in my above tank fuge. (Low flow and subpar lighting) but it’s gone… all gone
Are you dosing with vodka? I can't remember.... But Since I have been dosing with vodka (2-3 months now) red and green cyano is eradicated from my tank. I had it really bad in my above tank fuge. (Low flow and subpar lighting) but it’s gone… all gone
hamiltonguy
New member
Keep in mind that if improperly dosed, ultra slime might turn your water yellow-ish and if you're going to resort to chemicals, straight erythromycin would be better. It's the active antibiotic in ultra slime and other cyanoBACTERIA removers.
However, if for some reason some of the bacteria survives the treatment, the antibiotic may not work in the future. Which is why it's much better to solve these problems without chemicals.
Good luck though.
However, if for some reason some of the bacteria survives the treatment, the antibiotic may not work in the future. Which is why it's much better to solve these problems without chemicals.
Good luck though.
maxheadroom
Clownfish Farmer
Dont use the red slime remover! Your tank is not going to change for the better overnight. Only bad things happen fast. Slow it down, relax and enjoy your tank. I read your other thread where you said you used tap water for top off. Did you get a RO/DI unit yet? Red slime is caused by excess nutrients (tap water) and low flow. Try siphoning the algae out and Do a couple of water changes and increase flow in the areas your having cyano problems in. Dont use meds, its just a band aid, not a cure. You could also use one of these:
A phosban reactor will help get rid of phosphates. No matter what, It's not going to clear up overnight. Give it time.
A phosban reactor will help get rid of phosphates. No matter what, It's not going to clear up overnight. Give it time.
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Maxheadroom :
I never said I used tap water was talking about my daughter. I've realy exhausted this subject . And I've answered all ?'s So I'm at a dead end as far as this problem. I'm not going to try anything else . Buying the Ultra slime tomorrow. I don't have any phosphates or anything else. I took my water to a lab here and theres nothing in it !
Ronny
I never said I used tap water was talking about my daughter. I've realy exhausted this subject . And I've answered all ?'s So I'm at a dead end as far as this problem. I'm not going to try anything else . Buying the Ultra slime tomorrow. I don't have any phosphates or anything else. I took my water to a lab here and theres nothing in it !
Ronny
Toddrtrex
Premium Member
Just because the tests show that you have no phosphates in your water doesn't mean that you don't have any. Odds are the cyano (( and other "algae" -- cyano isn't an algae )) are using it up before it is "free" in the water.
Red slime remover may work for the short term, but if you don't fix the underlying problem -- excess nutriments -- it will just come back.
Red slime remover may work for the short term, but if you don't fix the underlying problem -- excess nutriments -- it will just come back.
maxheadroom
Clownfish Farmer
you can have my red slime remover. this is what happened when I used it:
My scoly:
My scoly:
Chris 4869 :
Why don't you keep your negative comments to your self about me. You don't know what I have done here and I'm shure you haven't read all the posts by be on this problem. Most here don't bother like you to read all the thread material . If you did you would know where I have been a done with this subject . Theres no end to what you can put on a reef tank. This is only a 25 gal and I don't have the room or want to invest a lot of reactors on this system . All that said the constructive replies are well apreciated. Most of the problem I have been told is trying to manage such a small system no room for error.
Ronny
Why don't you keep your negative comments to your self about me. You don't know what I have done here and I'm shure you haven't read all the posts by be on this problem. Most here don't bother like you to read all the thread material . If you did you would know where I have been a done with this subject . Theres no end to what you can put on a reef tank. This is only a 25 gal and I don't have the room or want to invest a lot of reactors on this system . All that said the constructive replies are well apreciated. Most of the problem I have been told is trying to manage such a small system no room for error.
Ronny
Maxheadroom darned i was told to use it by the Capn . Many here have used it with good results they said. If you can't realy accurately test for phosphates . How can you tell if you realy have them ? And feeding flake only every 3 days where are they comming from. Can it be the DI cartrage I have 0 in and out TDS Like i said I've tried most sugestions within my budget.
Ronny
Ronny
i think the capn suggested it because all else had failed ronny, but he also suggested the source of the cyano is identified and dealt with so it doesnt come back, i understand your frustaration buddy, is there any way you can get a reactor on the tank, just drop a maxi-jet 400 in the tank about 6" from the sand and hang a two little fishes on the tank, fill it 1 third with rowaphos and run for 5 days, then dump it and re-fill again, for 5 days, and then see how the cyano is, just another suggestion, i think max is right ronny, but really hope you beat this thing.
maxheadroom
Clownfish Farmer
the red slime remover kills the bad AND the GOOD bacteria in a tank.
