D-Nak
Active member
This. But treat for 5-7 days. 3 days is insufficient. As with most antibiotics, a full course is needed even if the ailment appears to have gone away.
Unsure what's stressing my anemone
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This. But treat for 5-7 days. 3 days is insufficient. As with most antibiotics, a full course is needed even if the ailment appears to have gone away.
D-Nak
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The reason for not treating the entire tank:
1. The antibiotics may kill beneficial bacteria along with the harmful bacteria. This could throw the entire tank out of whack, which could lead to algae blooms and other unpredictable results.
2. Antibiotics need to be administered based on water volume. Using a tank larger than 10 gallons is simply wasteful. 100% water changes need to be performed every night.
1. The antibiotics may kill beneficial bacteria along with the harmful bacteria. This could throw the entire tank out of whack, which could lead to algae blooms and other unpredictable results.
2. Antibiotics need to be administered based on water volume. Using a tank larger than 10 gallons is simply wasteful. 100% water changes need to be performed every night.
Dmorty217
Saltwater Addict
Thanks for correcting me, for some reason I was thinking treat like praziquantel.
OrionN
Moved on
Your tank does not look like it is in top shape with a lot of nuisance growth either cyanobacterial or algae. Your anemone is sick. Treating it quickly is needed if you expect it to survive. The success rate is much better if you treat it quickly, the longer you wait, the lower the recover rate.
Good luck.
Good luck.
I looked into getting Ciprofloxacin, but it appears I need a prescription for it. How did you get any? "Uhhh... I have a pet that needs it." "Well then, your veterinarian can prescribe it for you!" :uhoh2:
Well, whenever I clean the glass, the strands of algae that come off float in the water, and I didn't want the anemone to get irritated by that, so I put off cleaning the glass for a long time. I also had red and green lighting turned up pretty high to make the lighting look more natural. I found out that algae likes red and green light though, and I did have a big problem with algae, so I turned it down.
I don't think it's a chemistry problem causing the alage outbreak, because again, all my tests tell me my water is fine.
The past few nights, the anemone has looked almost totally better (more inflated, mouth closed almost all the way. Still not attaching itself though). I think that means the light is too bright after all, so I'm going to try turning it down some more.
OrionN
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Fish Flox is the name of Ciprofloxacin for fish.
https://www.thomaslabs.com/product/fish-flox/fish-antibiotics#minicart_a
https://www.thomaslabs.com/product/fish-flox/fish-antibiotics#minicart_a
OrionN
Moved on
Fish Flox is the name of Ciprofloxacin for fish. Order online. Quick search show this. I never order from this company. Just the first when I google it
https://www.thomaslabs.com/product/fish-flox/fish-antibiotics#minicart_a
https://www.thomaslabs.com/product/fish-flox/fish-antibiotics#minicart_a
Update: The anemone is still looking stressed. I got some fish flox in the mail today and will begin treatment in a hospital tank ASAP. However, I realized too late that I didn't get nearly enough pills--just enough for two days' treatment. I can't find a place online that has quick enough shipping time to get me more before this supply runs out. My LFS does carry Fish Mox (amoxicillin).
TL;DR; Would amoxicillin work just as well as ciprofloxacin?
TL;DR; Would amoxicillin work just as well as ciprofloxacin?
Amox is a different antibiotic than cipro. Both treat different bacteria. While the Cipro usually treats bladder infections in humans, where Amox might not, there is no way of knowing what it might do if you dose it in the HS tank. Amox is more of a broad spec coverage antibiotic, but would try and consult with someone who is very knowledgeable with marine life and antibiotics.
RioReefr
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I will add my 2 cents since I have AI Prime HD as well and it pretty much operates at top-end. I have researched this light and it is basically impossible to get "too much" light as the PAR value diminishes rapidly the further down in your tank you go. I am going to say that is not your problem. However, I only run my Reds/Greens @ 5% or less though.
In regards to antibiotics. Amoxicillin has been around for a very long time, its basically just a general purpose antibiotic (its in the same class as penicillin). You can't really go wrong with this antibiotic. Personally, if I "feel" some strep-throat or onset of bronchitis, this is my go-to antibiotic.
Cipro is a different class of antibiotic. I have used the droplets when I got an eye-infection and when I got an urinary tract infection. I have never used antibiotics in my tank so I don't know what to recommend.
As a side note, I had a hammer-colony that was slowly dying off even though my water parameters were good. People suggested it had an infection or pest that was killing it. After trying lots of things, I finally determined it was just lacking proper nutrition. I started using amino-acids/vitamins and that was a game-changer for me.
Some other suggestions is you might have some toxins/heavy metals (perhaps rust) in your water column. Things like GAC and Purigen are inexpensive alternatives that could help you get rid of those impurities out of your water. Focus on getting rid of your algae-issues, and I bet your anemone looks healthier too.
In regards to antibiotics. Amoxicillin has been around for a very long time, its basically just a general purpose antibiotic (its in the same class as penicillin). You can't really go wrong with this antibiotic. Personally, if I "feel" some strep-throat or onset of bronchitis, this is my go-to antibiotic.
Cipro is a different class of antibiotic. I have used the droplets when I got an eye-infection and when I got an urinary tract infection. I have never used antibiotics in my tank so I don't know what to recommend.
As a side note, I had a hammer-colony that was slowly dying off even though my water parameters were good. People suggested it had an infection or pest that was killing it. After trying lots of things, I finally determined it was just lacking proper nutrition. I started using amino-acids/vitamins and that was a game-changer for me.
Some other suggestions is you might have some toxins/heavy metals (perhaps rust) in your water column. Things like GAC and Purigen are inexpensive alternatives that could help you get rid of those impurities out of your water. Focus on getting rid of your algae-issues, and I bet your anemone looks healthier too.
Thanks for the advice, RioReefer (on an unrelated note, you have very good English skills! I wouldn't know it wasn't your first language if I didn't see where you were from).
I did see some supplements like amino acids at my LFS. I wondered if they'd do any good; I read that just using reef water would replenish most of the trace elements and stuff that the supplements basically are (I get Red Sea Coral Pro water from my LFS). I guess it can't hurt to try amino acids and stuff. What are you using? How often do you dose?
I got an answer to my amoxicillin question in another thread. OrionN said it's not as good as ciproflaxin because it doesn't target as many types of bacteria, but it will work in a pinch.
I do have a pressing question, though. The ciproflaxin doesn't seem to be dissolving. I crushed most of it into a powder, but now there's just powder sitting on the bottom of the tank. How do I get it to dissolve? In the linked thread, a pH stone is recommended. It never says what the optimal pH is though. Does pH need to be lower for the pills to dissolve? If so, how am I supposed to do 100% water changes from my DT that has a pH of 8.4 without stressing my anemone? Thanks.
I did see some supplements like amino acids at my LFS. I wondered if they'd do any good; I read that just using reef water would replenish most of the trace elements and stuff that the supplements basically are (I get Red Sea Coral Pro water from my LFS). I guess it can't hurt to try amino acids and stuff. What are you using? How often do you dose?
I got an answer to my amoxicillin question in another thread. OrionN said it's not as good as ciproflaxin because it doesn't target as many types of bacteria, but it will work in a pinch.
I do have a pressing question, though. The ciproflaxin doesn't seem to be dissolving. I crushed most of it into a powder, but now there's just powder sitting on the bottom of the tank. How do I get it to dissolve? In the linked thread, a pH stone is recommended. It never says what the optimal pH is though. Does pH need to be lower for the pills to dissolve? If so, how am I supposed to do 100% water changes from my DT that has a pH of 8.4 without stressing my anemone? Thanks.
