Utter Chaos or?

i'm glad saltwater is a hobby, and not a scheme to get rich fast. :confused: I picked the wrong coral to be obsessed with LOL. There is a cult that says omg this coral is awesome lets make stupid people pay 100 times what its worth . . . on a lighter note thats a SICK paly
 
Im not trying to be a "hater" but i mean for the new fish and the people that have been around the block in this realm of the hobby... BE SMART PLEASE ;)
 
im glad you started YOU started the thread, i can vent and blame you for getting me started. hahaha i'm not a hater either i'll probably end up buying one when it hits 100 a polyp :lol2:
 
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im glad you started YOU started the thread, i can vent and blame you for getting me started. hahaha i'm not a hater either i'll probably end up buying one when it hits 100 a polyp :lol2:
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bahahaha.. Now now i know zoa threads are supposed to be educational, user friendly and all after school special like in all and not negative.... but its educational not how to be a DUMB$$$ :eek::wavehand:
 
As someone who has kept, grown, loved and cherish zoas and palys for over 18 years, even when nobody wanted them or liked them...seeing this makes my stomach turn. I typed a full 2 pages just now about this, but why bother to post it. As long as people continue to pay these crazy per polyp prices...this will continue. This is why you see so many collectors and not enough reefer. This is why you see a tank full of 3 and 4 polyp frags, and no colonies. This is why so many have left the hobby because of these prices. People every polyp is stunning in bright lights, with a macro lens shooting 3 inches from the polyp, NOT THE COLONY, with a macro lens. There are those who will rush here and say, "if you can get that from someone, then hey, go for it", or "It's supply and demand", that's a lie people. Do you think divers dove and brought up one or two polyps? No, they brought up a colony and someone said, CHI CHING. As long as people pay this kind of money for a polyp that grows overnight, go right ahead.

It's sad and those who charge and pay these prices are helping to continually turn this HOBBY into a BUSINESS for so many people.

With a show of hands, how many people sit everyday with their nose against the glass to view their polyps? That is the only time a polyp will look like this unless it is a solid pigment. And the buyer will be surprised when he/she gets it and it doesn't like that way in his/her tank. Then you have to deal with possible mortality if it is shipped. Every polyp is gorgeous in perfect lighting with your face in the water 2 inches away from your 2 polyp frag of Gomer Pyle palys. But guess what, that's not how polyps are viewed in 70, 90, 120, 150 or 200 gallon tank. Lets see those hands.

Advil !!!
 
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most expensive thing in my tank is purple hornets HAD to have them, that was 30 dollars a polyp and i guess that was a "deal" to be honest though people are proud that they're getting together(call it a reefer summit talk) and setting prices, this is supposed to be fun, you can't have fun spending all your paycheck! After 18 years i imagine you've seen some ugly stuff, so cheers to you sticking around and sharing your knowledge and what you've seen.
 
You're right and you have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.

Note the dates, the prices and the ACT in the links below. I have done this for many many years on many sites and even on Ebay. I have done many Trivia Contest and Give-a-ways of my own zoas and palys. I have given away as many polyps as I have sold in the past. NO, I'm not angry, just very disappointed that reefing has turned into retailing.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208268&highlight=mucho+reef

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1402134&highlight=mucho+reef


Tylenol !!!
 
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with this kinda thing i just think in a few years so many ppl will have them that the price will go down very drastically. there zoas they grow fast lol. it is cool to see how the corals evolve such different color schemes. but i do agree with you MUCHO people shouldnt get into this hobby purely for making money. it makes me sick to see it happen.
 
That's what everyone says and that's how they justify these prices. "Oh, well..ahh, in a few years the the the the the prices will come down". Duh, who sent them up? I have never seen a hobby where the consumers, not the retailers, who are responsible for a price hike. The retailers would be foolish not to follow suit. They aren't going to lose out on the windfall. I know reefers who only love sps and absolutely hated zoas and palys, but when the prices shoot up because of greed and gouging, guess what, many of those zoa haters sold every sps they had. Now they too are collectors.

GAS X !!!
 
well mucho were both in michigan you ever want to do business i'd be willing lol i'd rather do business with someone who has sense than someone who wants cents hahaha
 
Trust me, just wait till tomorrow, the word will get out and everyone will come here to attack me and call me every name in the book. It's happened before and I could care less. They don't want you messing with their car note and mortgage payment, You can always tell the ones who are for these prices by there defense of them. This is a hobby that has lost its way over greed.
 
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pm what you got always looking for treats lol. honestly after 18 years seniority takes over and you can laugh em off. I'm almost to your level only 17 years 9 months to go haha
 
Thank GAWD!!!

I thought I didnt understand the hobbie when I saw that listing @ $200 PP.

I'm new to collecting and growing and dont mind spending a little money to make the hobbie better for everyone, but when I saw that Thread I just couldnt stop myself from replying with a ***??? style post.

I realize now it wasnt the right place to do it so thank you for this thread!!!

At least now I KNOW that I'm not crazy for not wanting to pay $200 for something that can melt!

K-RAZYYYY!!!
 
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1304962&highlight=pimpin

I don't think any of our comments are meant to make anyone look dumb, stupid or bad. I'm merely saying these prices hurt more than the help the hobby. I just heard someone say on another site, that per polyp sales help spread the new, colorful pieces around. OK, if that is true, sell them for $ 3 a piece. Then I heard well, when supply is low demand sets the price, LOL Demand isn't setting the price, "Dah Man" ( the seller ), is setting the price and creating the hype. "AND now Introducing the new Billy Bob Palythoas" only 8 in the ocean and I have 7 of them, come on. Read everything above this and just say no.
 
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And i started this thread not to get all crazy but to hear/vent from the people of our zoa/paly neighborhood.. CHIME IN PEOPLE.. ;) Please keep it clean so we dont end up with a lock ;)
 
I like zoas and palys. Not the most demanding corals and they are fun and colorful. Sometimes I paid to much, but I had the $$ at the time and want to grow them in my tank.

200 a polyp... not unless it was 24K gold or cleaned my tank for me.
 
I saw your post on the other thread danrhomberg and i dont think you were out of line. Its an open forum and if they dont like your opinion, well Tough. I would pay that price for a decent colony but never for one polyp. All these colors have been coming in for years and now through the internet and hype, the prices have skyrocketed. Its sad, that's why i only buy from LFS or trade with true hobbyists.

And Mucho, I sit everyday with my nose on the glass of my tank to view the polyps :)
I totally agree with you and friday night. I just recently started the forum thing, after being in the hobby over 10 years, and have seen both amazing tanks and very disturbing trends of selling by hype. They do it in the Lps and Sps side also but not as bad as this. "Here let me sell you this blue blade of grass to start your lawn with, it will spread quick if it doesn't die or turn back to green because i photo shopped it to begin with."

Thanks for the vent thread Friday, responsible reefers can stick together and support each other.
 
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