virgen reefer needs advice on filter

virgen reefer needs advice on filter

  • wetdry?

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • refugium?

    Votes: 20 74.1%
  • both?

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • something else plz explan.....

    Votes: 5 18.5%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10780208#post10780208 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
My guess would be about 10"to12" to be safe.
and, you are right she doesent know the half of it.
(As we say here in Texas IT AINT CHEAP)

if i leave 10"-12" that means my sump will only be 8"-10"
is that not to small? remember i only have 20"/21"
 
Well, you can try the 8" and if it's to tight then something else would need to be done. Question? can you place the refugium beside your tank? or like mine is on the other side of the wall inside a closet. I have absulotly nothing under my tank, and it's great.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10780395#post10780395 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
Well, you can try the 8" and if it's to tight then something else would need to be done. Question? can you place the refugium beside your tank? or like mine is on the other side of the wall inside a closet. I have absulotly nothing under my tank, and it's great.

not a option....... behind the tank is the bathroom....
not my house to be cutting into walls ect.....
as fas as it next to the tank i dont think i would want it there let alone the women. sound is some what of an issue i think all just put it under there and leave 6" that means my sump can be 36"L x 12"W x 14"H should be pertty easy to find something that size....
 
Hey, I understand! why dont you try this www.melevsreef.com
This guy is a member of a mas club here in dallas/ft.worth. he build's alot of custom sump's/refuium's out of acrlic. He might be able to help you out, with a custom made reguium. It's well worth the try at this point.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10780714#post10780714 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
Hey, I understand! why dont you try this www.melevsreef.com
This guy is a member of a mas club here in dallas/ft.worth. he build's alot of custom sump's/refuium's out of acrlic. He might be able to help you out, with a custom made reguium. It's well worth the try at this point.

damn thats one hell of a web site..... i learned more there then pertty muce anywhere else i have looked.......
at lest i understan what the hell a sump is now ..haha

off to look for sheets of acrylic....... thx a bunch for that link
 
No, problem anything at all help's. Im kinda new to the computer just in the last week I finaly got one, so what you are going thru on the tank, Im kinda going thru on this computer. Just trying to learn!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10785404#post10785404 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
No, problem anything at all help's. Im kinda new to the computer just in the last week I finaly got one, so what you are going thru on the tank, Im kinda going thru on this computer. Just trying to learn!

well im no wiz on a pc but i have had one for about 8 yrs now so i do know a lil...... click'n links n reading i can do .....
i do know to stay away from things like limewire kazaa & most any p2p program thats where u will get spyware/malware and slow ur pc way down............

now if u where in to hydroponics or car audio id be ur guide that i do understand :)...

i was unable to get any acrylic today witch after thinking about it was a good thing, i want to draw it out and get the right size sheets that i need, i work parttime (weekends mostly) at a car audio shop so cuting the acrylic wont be a prob we use plexiglass all the time and have the right tools.....

damn i got home tonite from work and my skimmer was full of nasty stuff and about half full or water, is that going to be a everyday thing?
 
well, you just fired up the tank this week right? How much live rock do you have in it? And is it cured? One way to find out is pull a piece out and if it smell's like rotten egg's then it's got some die off on it. If it smell's good with no oder, you should be ok. you shouldent be pulling to much out of your skimmer if your rock is cured. But also that is a good sign that your skimmer is working properly like it should.Also on the acrilic you need to probly get at least 3/8" thick mayby 1/4" but the thicker the better.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10788676#post10788676 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
well, you just fired up the tank this week right? How much live rock do you have in it? And is it cured? One way to find out is pull a piece out and if it smell's like rotten egg's then it's got some die off on it. If it smell's good with no oder, you should be ok. you shouldent be pulling to much out of your skimmer if your rock is cured. But also that is a good sign that your skimmer is working properly like it should.Also on the acrilic you need to probly get at least 3/8" thick mayby 1/4" but the thicker the better.


i have not put any "liverock" in it yet.... the rocks that are in there where from when i bought it and they looked to have dry'd algee on them and thats what the skimmer was pulling out as well and yes the skimmer smell's like rotten eggs....

on that link u sent me it said 1/4" thats what i pland on using all see what it cost to get 3/8"....

my lfs is selling LR for 6 a pound im gonna go pick up 100 bucks worth first thing in the morning anything else i should get why im there?...... i was gonna get it tonight but they close at 6 and i get off work at 6:30 then have to drive 45 home. they open at 9 and i start work at 8.... life dont ya lov it... needless to say im calling in late...hahaha
 
As a point of information. Deep sand beds 4inches plus serve a denitrification fuction. Many tanks work well with them. Others choose not to use them and rely instead on an adequate amount of live rock(3/4lb to ll/4lbs per gallon depending on porosity) and use no sand. Some use live rock and a small amount of sand (less than an inch) for decor and some minimal denitrification. All of these combinations can work. Your choice.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10788991#post10788991 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tmz
As a point of information. Deep sand beds 4inches plus serve a denitrification fuction. Many tanks work well with them. Others choose not to use them and rely instead on an adequate amount of live rock(3/4lb to ll/4lbs per gallon depending on porosity) and use no sand. Some use live rock and a small amount of sand (less than an inch) for decor and some minimal denitrification. All of these combinations can work. Your choice.

thx for the info.....

so in other words the sand bed i have now will work fine if get around 1lbs LR per gallon point......
 
Yes it should. It won't really do much work. I think if you're not going deep sand it's better to deep it pretty thin (under an inch or so). It traps less detrius.
 
That's a real good price for that size. Well how's the refugium going? Have you thought about what kind and size return pump you are going to use? How many overflow's are you going to use,one or two?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10792094#post10792094 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
That's a real good price for that size. Well how's the refugium going? Have you thought about what kind and size return pump you are going to use? How many overflow's are you going to use,one or two?

i thought it was a good price too.... the 2's where 34.99 on most websites and 32.99 at this place 5 bux to get the 3's is well worth it to me, that web site also has free shipping on orders over 150 so being that i was half way there i went ahead and ordered new bulb's for my lights as well ($25 each) they where $36 at my lfs..... it was shiped out to day i should have them by thursday they said it takes 2 days to northen cali.....


as for the refugium the return pumps are the lest of my worrys with a good friend owning the hydroponic store in my city i have pumps of any size at anytime he stocks plenty.....

overflows on the other hand are what im working on now
to build one or to buy one....... ? that web site u sent me makes it look so easy...... and would be nice to say i built it....
im gonna go surfing to nite and see what its going to cost me to buy/ship everything i need to build the sump/overflow
i do want 1 thats gonna fit what i need not one made for some other tank
 
Im thinking that most peaple would say that one overflow is good enough for a common 55gallon,But I think that you will get better waterflow with two overflow boxe's, one at each end of the tank, also it cut's down on any surface skim, Iv'e got two double overflow's on my 135. You probly could make them but there really not that exspensive verses labor, time, and cost to make them.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10795981#post10795981 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
Im thinking that most peaple would say that one overflow is good enough for a common 55gallon,But I think that you will get better waterflow with two overflow boxe's, one at each end of the tank, also it cut's down on any surface skim, Iv'e got two double overflow's on my 135. You probly could make them but there really not that exspensive verses labor, time, and cost to make them.

if im gonna make the sump then i might as well make the overflow just for the simple fact i will have most everything form the left overs of the sump.... i was thinking 2 overflows box's my self one for each side......

i was also pondering taking out that 2nd spacer from under my tank and adding that 19" to my sump.... ( i was going to use it for storage but i have plenty of cabnets for that....
 
That would be better for the sump, but are you certain forshore that the stand can support it,I cant see very clearly from the pics of it, is it solid wood or particle wood? the devider's look like particle wood, what about the rest of it?
 
I'd use two for safety sake if one siphon breaks the other can still keep your floor dry. Also stay away from the continuous siphon type overflows the siphon fails frequently. If your buying a box use the j tube type. If you are going to dyi, why not drill the tank and avoid the external overflow boxes. if you drill it or have it drilled you can use one internal box on either side or in the center and have two holes in the glass at the back of the box. Two holes work like two overflows and provide a safety in case one gets clogged for some unknow reason.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10796303#post10796303 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SCOTT42
That would be better for the sump, but are you certain forshore that the stand can support it,I cant see very clearly from the pics of it, is it solid wood or particle wood? the devider's look like particle wood, what about the rest of it?

just the diveders are particlebored the rest is solid oak and one thing i noticed the last time i was underthere is that the middle of the tank dont even touch any part of the 2 centers except the 2solid parts on the back thats when i thought of this....

i just went and knocked it out and its still standing :)

now in i have 58" in length so 58 x 14 x 12
 
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