I agree with Gary M. wholeheartedly. We shouldn't become so politically correct that it violates the stability or cohesiveness of our community to respectfuly disagree on certain points. We are all passionate about our hobby and the life forms that it represents. I don't believe Nate was disrespectful in posing his concerns to Namyar. As he stated, we have all made multiple mistakes in this hobby and have made poor choices in lifestock selection. But we learn, and hopefully, through vehicles such as this forum, share our collective knowledge and so reduce these errors. Without candid discussion and respectful debate, there can be no advancement of knowledge.