Vodak doseing??

[gunther13mt]

Has any one tryed vodka dosing ive done a lot of research on it but would like first hand experiences before trying. Everything in the tank is happy and healthy.
Thanks in advance.

Tank specs & fish

Tank size:55gal
Nitrate:25ppm
Nitrite:0
Ammonia:0
Ph:8.2
Temp: 78.1-78.4F

2 True clowns
2 watchman goby
2 pajama cardinals
1 enginer goby
1 sand shifting sea star
4 emerald crabs
5 turbo snails
4 cleaner shrimp





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[Tisbe]

I use/used vodka & good husbandry to rehab a tank that long term had high phosphate. It took 6 months. Worked like a charm.

What types of info are you looking for?

 

[gunther13mt]

Just how the fish. Are effected corals and life in general ive been fighting high nitrates since ive set the tank up. Im goi,g back to running 10% water changes every week but have only gotten them down to 25ppm. Is vodak dosing something easy to do when to do and how is what im looking for.

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[gunther13mt]

I use/used vodka & good husbandry to rehab a tank that long term had high phosphate. It took 6 months. Worked like a charm.

What types of info are you looking for?

Sorry forgot to tag you

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[pyithar]

i dose vinegar instead. i've read vodka dosing could promote cyano growth.

http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index...ar-dosing-methodology-for-the-marine-aquarium

that link ^^might help.

 

[jiminy_crime]

Vodka dosing is the next best thing since sliced bread to combat high nitrates and phosphates.

Follow the regimen on Melevsreef.com .

I did this for about 2 months before anything happened for me. Once I hit 5 mL a day, I experienced a bacteria bloom and the water turned milky white. At his point I cut it to half for maintenance dosing. The bloom wouldn't go away so I cut the dose to 1.5 mL until the bloom went away. I still continued to have a bloom so I took it to .5 ml a day and the bloom went away but still maintained 0 nitrates. I have been at .5 mL now for 1 month and continue to hold at 0 nitrates.

I also started dosing MB7 in conjunction with my vodka to grow the right bacteria and since doing this, the Cyano died away in my sump and my water clarity became crystal clear.

This is the only suggestion I have that I would have done different is to dose MB7 along with vodka from the get go.




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[Tisbe]

I worked my way up to 2.2 ml total per day split by adding 1.1ml in the morning and 1.1ml at night. Most people only dose once per day. It is very easy, you just have to remember to do it everyday and never dose more to make up a day. I never did the "ramp all the way up" thing to a full dose since I was dealing with nutrients that had build up in the rock over years and I had a feeling that I needed to go really slow. I am glad I did.

What I noticed and made me hold at 2.2ml was that my tank would get cloudy, in the beginning about every 2-3 weeks just after the algae on the rocks dies and turned black. As that decomposed the cloudy water set in until there was enough nutrients in the water for the algae to grow again. The water would clear then the process would repeat. Over time the density and length the couldly water would be there shortened and the amount of black decomposing algae on the rocks grew less and less. Now the water is crystal clear, corals and fish happy and no negative effects to my tank.

If you do dose carbon. Keep an eye on your equipment and clean the bacterial build up that accumulats much quicker than before you started dosing.

Hope this helps.

 

[CStrickland]

Do you have a decent skimmer?
Carbon dosing (vodka/vinegar etc) works in part by increasing the skimmer production. It's like the carbon helps the skimmer work better.

 

[bmitchell138]

I've been vodka dosing my 29g for about six weeks. I have a fairly large bio load and heard this would help in keeping the NO3 and PO4 under control as well as helping corals color up. My NO3 is at zero but still have some PO4 at. 0.10. I have been dealing with some cyano blooms which may be from the vodka and/or the PO4. I've consider backing down the vodka and start dosing vinegar to see if the cyano will go away.

 

[Sk8r]

I've tried vinegar but it didn't work as well as NoPox, which has had a rapid and definite effect.

 

[Animagus]

Being that you are using the purest water on earth, (RO/DI) couldn't you just achieve the same results without dosing? Are you trying to bypass the labor? Don't get me wrong Vodka/Vinegar can be a means to an end, but nipping it in the bud is another option too.

 

[gone fishin]

I vodka dosed for quite awhile. I am at work now but I believe I found the table on how much to dose in a reefkeeping mag article. I probably dosed for about a year then I started to get cyano showing up sporadically. After I stopped dosing the cyano went away.

a word of caution. Do not dose to much at once. If you can't remember if you dosed or not then skip it till the next day. A vodka overdose can cause a rapid bacteria bloom with an end result of very low oxygen in the water. This could prove to be very detrimental to your critters. Also, if you do not have a decent skimmer I would not try it. Good luck just my 2 cents.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct.../nftt/&usg=AFQjCNEvXq0zpWrOB62gy8oKAgPUwMm2Og

found the link to the dosing instructions.

 

[gunther13mt]

Being that you are using the purest water on earth, (RO/DI) couldn't you just achieve the same results without dosing? Are you trying to bypass the labor? Don't get me wrong Vodka/Vinegar can be a means to an end, but nipping it in the bud is another option too.

Im not trying to by pass labor i do weekly water changes now again at 10%. Nitrates have come down quite a bit. My reasoning for wanting to dose is my bioload is preety substantial for my tank but well with the capabalities of it. I have fought high nitrates since setting up the tank just over 7 months ago. Have yet to add corals or anything after i lost an anemone due to inexperience and all around suckyness on my part since that happen i have been trying to combat what i see was the cause. Also when i do add corals i have been told coloration of the tank looks a lot better and healthyer

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[Animagus]

So what are your parameters exactly? At seven months this is nothing out of the ordinary IMO. If your in this for the long haul you might want to think about doing the work as opposed to a quick way out. JMO. GL.

LARS does exist btw...

 

[MikeyAl]

Vodka works great. I've done it with success- but I'd rather use it for a martini. Buy NOPOX and you're good to go.


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[gunther13mt]

So what are your parameters exactly? At seven months this is nothing out of the ordinary IMO. If your in this for the long haul you might want to think about doing the work as opposed to a quick way out. JMO. GL.

LARS does exist btw...

Tested today an hour after water change.

Temp 78.3
Salinity 1.024
Nitrite 0
Ammonia 0
Nitrate according to my bad test 40ppm (but petco tested at 25ppm yesterday)
Ph 8.2 and holding steady

just took 2 pump out for a vinegar cleaning which i hope,might help as they were pretty cruddy. Also fighting a huge green alge bloom

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[gunther13mt]

This is the tank im thinking of dosing

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[hkgar]

Carbon (Vodka) dosing is for reducing high Nitrate (NO3) and Phosphate (PO4) levels. If you do not have problem with those do not dose.

Are you testing for them? If you are cycled and have zero Ammonia and Nitrite, for awhile you don't need to regularly test for those, but get PO4 and NO3 test kits and start monitoring those.

Dosing vodka, or any carbon, is of no value without NO3. It can't work without it.

 

[gunther13mt]

Carbon (Vodka) dosing is for reducing high Nitrate (NO3) and Phosphate (PO4) levels. If you do not have problem with those do not dose.

Are you testing for them? If you are cycled and have zero Ammonia and Nitrite, for awhile you don't need to regularly test for those, but get PO4 and NO3 test kits and start monitoring those.

Dosing vodka, or any carbon, is of no value without NO3. It can't work without it.

Please read above for stats on tank takin today i do regularly test for Nitrates and upon payday am buying a PO4 test.

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[hkgar]

Sorry I missed that.