Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product

Since my tank has only been established for about three months in which time all the water entering the system came from I high quality RODI unit in an area of the country with very low metal content in the municipal water supply, it would seem to me that my risk of increasing the amount of free toxic metals would be minimal. Would you agree? Also, is there a target ORP range? I have continued to get conflicting answers to that question.

Metals may not be an issue ; likely not inl your situation.

This article may be of interest:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-12/rhf/feature/index.php

Typically, aqauriums do well in teh 300 to 450mv range. The controller is usually set between 400 and 450 when ozone is applied.
 
After reading the positive feedback on these pellets, I've decided to order some for my tank. I have some quick questions, though (sorry if they've already been answered). I currently have GAC and GFO in two TLF reactors, which run in series and are fed by my return pump. I would prefer to replace the GFO with the pellets, but I see some people run both. My questions:
1. If I simply replace the GFO with pellets, can I continue running using the TLF reactors in series (GAC then pellets then output to the skimmer intake)?
2. Should I add another pump and run the two reactors seperately?
3. Or, should I continue running my current setup and add a third reactor for the pellets with its own pump?
I really prefer to keep thing simple but want to do whats best. Thanks for the help.

Personally,I'd continue the gfo and gac.

If you're set on removing the gfo , running the gac downstream from the pellets may lead to bacteria clogging the the gac quickly. On the other hand it might prove to be a very effective way to insure their removal and limit the amount of bacteria and the organic products of their activity flowing into the tank.

All in all running a separate reactor for the pellets gives you the ability to control the flow to each media used separately which can be very desireable as well as simplifying media change out.
 
Jon Warner reccomends you run it in it's own reactor with around 100gph flow. As far as GFO goes i ran it until my Po4 was undetectable with the Hanna meter PPB and then removed it. The EB has been holding it at around 4PPB which is pretty good IMO without any help. JMO
Bill:thumbsup:

hey Bill! glad it's working out for you. I am seeing good things on my end too at 1.5 weeks. I am at .03 PH4 and waiting to go undetectable before pulling GFO off-line, although I think it is already exhausted anyways.

So would 4PPB be .04 on a hanna?
 
Took my GFO off line the other day and my po4 is still 0.00 on my hanna checker. So no more expensive GFO for me!
 
Do you guy run the ecobak pellet w/ GFO in a separate container. I tested my son tank yesterday before running the pellet. Nitrate 0 on sailfert and Phos. .06 on Hach phosmeter. I thought you don't have to use GFO anymore.
 
Phosphorus meter

Phosphorus meter

hey Bill! glad it's working out for you. I am seeing good things on my end too at 1.5 weeks. I am at .03 PH4 and waiting to go undetectable before pulling GFO off-line, although I think it is already exhausted anyways.

So would 4PPB be .04 on a hanna?

No the Phosphate meter is PPM The Phosphorus Meter is PPB If my math is correct 4ppb is 0.012 ppm or equal to around 3x the reading in ppb to ppm
Very low is all i know LOL
Bill;)
 
Jon Warner reccomends you run it in it's own reactor with around 100gph flow. As far as GFO goes i ran it until my Po4 was undetectable with the Hanna meter PPB and then removed it. The EB has been holding it at around 4PPB which is pretty good IMO without any help. JMO
Bill:thumbsup:
Took my GFO off line the other day and my po4 is still 0.00 on my hanna checker. So no more expensive GFO for me!

Look like everyone have good result
:beer:
 
WEEK 2 UPDATE

Started with 500ml the first week and added another 500ml for the second week.

PH4 have dropped from .08 to .02
N03 remains the same at 2.5ppm

I definately see an increase of skimmer gunk!
 
WEEK 2 UPDATE

Started with 500ml the first week and added another 500ml for the second week.

PH4 have dropped from .08 to .02
N03 remains the same at 2.5ppm

I definately see an increase of skimmer gunk!

Good deal platax!!!
Noticed any extra brown or green diatoms?
 
Nope nothing yet. I had a bit of cyano that has actually gotten better.

How's your doing? Any change in your corals?

I will test later today, but was at a LFS and they tested but used API test kit there and their tests stated 0 phosphates and 0 nitrates but plan to use my salifert kits.
As for corals anything that was rtn'ing has stopped. All other corals DEFINTITELY have more color. My tri-colors are showing three colors, my garf is finally showing the blue tips.
 
Has anyone seen a substantial drop in their nitrates? IF so, how much are you running? How high were your nitrates and what are they at now?

Thanks!
 
Does phos. usually goes up then come back down after a month. When I strarted on Mon. phos. was .06 on a hach phosmeter. Today it goes up to .09 should I start using GFO w/ the pellet again.
 
Does phos. usually goes up then come back down after a month. When I strarted on Mon. phos. was .06 on a hach phosmeter. Today it goes up to .09 should I start using GFO w/ the pellet again.

I didn't stop useing GFO tell the 10 week mark. You should keep running it for a while IMO.
 
I'm glad to see the positive results people are having with EB. So far, I'm still on the outside looking in. Maybe someone can give me a suggestion what I should try next.
90 gallon heavily stocked display, 300ish total water volume, running an ATI BM250 w Red Demon pinwheels.
I was in the dosing VV prior to the EB switch. Although I had been dosing for a few months, I still had not reached my maintenance dose. NO3 was hanging in the 20's (Salifert), PO4 was around .07 (Hanna).
I've been running the EB for two months now. I'm running 2 liters (well, 1.75 liters- my ziplock baggie from WM was light) in a 4" reactor, right at 200 gph flow. I had the reactor's return next to one of the skimmer's pumps.
Five weeks in, growth was up a little, colors had improved somewhat, and my cyano had decreased slightly. However, my numbers had not changed.
A little out of curiosity, mostly out of frustration, I dusted off the ol' ASM G3 w recirc mod. The G3 is fed solely from the EB reactor, skimming wet, and the G3's return goes into the skimmer section of the sump.
After three weeks of running like this, NO3 is still in the mid-20's, and PO4
has increased from .07 to .10
Open to suggestions. Throw another liter of EB into the reactor? Decrease flow? Both??
I'm a definite believer in this product, I just cannot seem to get it dialed in for my system.

BTW, has anyone experienced any unexplainable livestock loss since starting to run EB? My ORA birdsnest, which had gone from 3-2" twigs to a 7" bush in a little over a year, RTNed in a matter of a couple of days. I was able to save only a 1" piece.
 
IME The amount of EB may well need to be based on Bio load not sheer water volume. That being said i raised my quantity of EB over the 500ml per 100gal level by about 50%.
Like you i have a very heavy bio load and were not seeing a drop in Po4 until i increased my EB then started to see the Po4 get lower and lower. I use the Hanna phosphorus meter that measures in PPB and I'm getting #'s ranging from 2-4 PPB Which is below 0.012 PPM at the Max without running and Po4 removal resin. My No3 is at 0 per Salifert.
water is as clean as i want to get it and my SPS color is amazing.
As far as losing any Coral that may just be a fluke, But i would also check for Critters like red bugs or flatworms, I know But it can happen to anyone if you have added any new coral lately.
One last thing is it seemed to take a long time to get where the EB was doing the job but it did get to the point where i would not take it out!
Bill
 
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...The 3rd week I decide to try something else, so I turn the valve down so the pellets barely stop moving. I wait 2 days and check the PO3 and it dropped to 0ppm. I didn't know if this was b/c I slowed the flow thru the reactor or what. Later that night I put the flow back to full blast. the pellets are tumbling like crazy again. I check the PO3 the next day and it was back up to 5ppm. I decided to try it again slow and no tumble.

Today is beginning of week 4, and PO3 is 0ppm and PO4 still 0.00 Hanna Checker....

Anyone else have similar experiences with decreased flow?
 
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