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[Michael Hoaster]

Simulated Manatee Grazing Event today. The Manatee Grass really got scalped. I had to scrap off more Spiroid Worms from the glass. I'm leaving the Caulerpa to grow, with the new tang coming. I ran out of time to get pics. Maybe tomorrow.

I wasn't able to move the new fish into the display, but I started the process of raising salinity with a QT water change. It'll take a few days to raise it to the display's level. You can go down in salinity much faster. Going up, they have to work harder to osmoregulate, so you go slower.

The new Codium Dawn sent me is looking great. Even with the warm temps this time of year, it's doing well. I left them alone until today, were I found a new spot for them. The purple photosynthetic sponge Dawn sent looks like it'll make it. I'm not sure yet where I want to put it. If the new tang clears off the back wall, that would be where I'll put it. I think I still have another sponge up there, amongst the caulerpa. I'm keeping them on the sand, for now.

I clipped one of the tall sargassum weeds. It had fallen over, and wasn't coming back up. I may prune some more of the Sargassum. It's getting kinda shaggy.

I'm kind of excited about the new fish, and how they will effect the ecosystem. Change is imminent. Bottom line, I'm hoping for less work for me.

 

[vlangel]

I am excited for you and the new changes, especially the new fish. I am glad that it seems like the codium and sponge are going to make it. My tank temperature has been around 77° this summer. Having the sump in the basement definitely helps keep my water from getting too warm. I keep the AC at 77-78° also. What is your water temperature this time of year?

 

[Michael Hoaster]

Thanks Dawn. I was watching the tank yesterday, imagining how it will look with the new fish. Can't wait! This time of year my tank temps hang around 79-81.

 

[vlangel]

Oh so your water temperature is definitely warmer than mine by several degrees. I have had codium recede but probably not due to temperature. I was not aware that it was sensitive to that but I am glad that you let me know, even though in this tank system that is not an issue.

 

[vlangel]

Hey Michael, any update on the new fish and if they have moved into the display tank yet?

 

[Michael Hoaster]

Hey Dawn! Now that you mention it, yes, I have an update.

I'll start with the bad news. I lost two of the four Talbot's Damsels in quarantine. I believe the cause was aggression/chronic stress. Even though they were juveniles, and in a 3 foot long tank, and had an abundance of hiding spots, they just got territorial and aggressive. What did I learn? No more than two fish per quarantine tank.

The Sailfin Tang and two Talbot's Damsels are now in the display. They're doing great and the tank is alive with movement. I've seen the Talbot's Damsels pick pods off the glass and the sand. I named the new tang Stanley. I've watched Stanley follow Scarlett, the Tomini Tang around the tank, which is cute. Right now they look close to the same size, but Stanley will grow into a much bigger fish.

I'm very excited about adding these tangs and bottom-feeding damsels to my tank's ecosystem! I expect they will alter it immensely. THAT will be fun to watch. I remember with the Atlantic Blue Tang I added in my previous tank, it gave me 6-8 months of pruning vacation. His pruning looked waaaay better than mine too. But then it reached the point where almost all my macro algae was gone, and I made the call to remove him. This time, I'm less concerned with losing macros. Though I do have a few I'll probably want to save.

But I'm most interested in the alteration of the ecosystem. What do I hope will happen? I hope that these new players help the tank's ecosystem to clean itself. So I don't have to. Two big guys, added to the clean up crew, basically. Two tangs, with different mouths, eat different algae, so there's little resource overlap, and different algae get eaten, that before did not. Change.

As I get older, I need this stuff to get easier, so I better get smart. Nature will teach me how to do it. I'll try to follow along. It's a wonderful journey…

 

[vlangel]

I am sorry about the aggression in the QT situation. Damsels I think are especially bad. Even in my display, I started off with 6 healthy yellowtail damsels. I am down to 3, and I feel like it is the same reason that you lost damsels. Of course my display is only on the large size of small at 30" across and 56 gallons.

Hey, that is exciting however about the new fish being in your display tank. I love sailfin tangs. They have such an elegant shape with their big round fins. That would be fun watching Stanley follow Scarlett. I am guessing that you have not seen any aggression amongst the 2 of them? I know multiple tangs in a tank can be a problem but since you have chosen 2 tangs that target different food, you should be good. It was good that Scarlett was added first too since she seemed shy by nature and will be the much smaller fish in the end.

I hear ya about making the tank easier to manage in terms of maintenance. That is what my tank has morphed to as well. Ha ha, getting older will do that to you!

 

[Michael Hoaster]

I have found that keeping multiple damsels can be challenging. Even the least aggressive ones can be pretty mean, and as they get older, they just get meaner. Talbots' are considered one of the mellowest, but since they are more tied to the substrate, they tend to get territorial. The two remaining I have are doing very well in the big tank. They should have plenty of room to avoid each other, if they choose. The (also mellow) Allen's Damsels have chased them a bit, but everyone seems to be settling down.

Scarlett was kinda mean to Stanley, at first. She would charge at him, but pull up without contact, so I knew it was just a matter of time. Now I think she likes the company of a similar-sized fish. The best thing is that they kind of inspire each other to feed naturally on algae. It's almost a competition. That's good news for me! I've let the tank get more overgrown, to see if they'll take care of it for me.

To some extent, I think getting older is the mother of invention!

 

[vlangel]

Hey Michael, any updates on the tank? How are Scarlett and Stanley doing? Are they making your job easier as you had hoped?

 

[Michael Hoaster]

Hey Dawn. Scarlett and Stanley are doing well and I've been testing them by being super-slack. So far, they haven't made a big impression. Stanley isn't going after the caulerpa-not yet at least. Maybe he'll acquire a taste, but if I'm wanting to get rid of caulerpa, I may need to consider another fish. I think I'll wait around and see if his taste evolves over time.

I've been camping a bunch as the leaves turn at high elevation. Got around 4-6 inches of snow one night in Steamboat. Here's a shot in Crested Butte:

Beaver pond. A shot for aquarists.

Sorry I haven't been around much lately. So much 'outside fun' right now, so the tank gets neglected. I'm sure I'll get back in gear as it gets colder.

 

[vlangel]

Wow, what a gorgeous shot of Crested Butte! Enjoy all the beauty the outdoors has to offer this time of year. I do not believe that there is a more rejuvenating activity to engage one's time in than appreciating the magnificent scenery of our world. I am a little jealous. Right now Dave and I are somewhat tied down with helping his aunt with health appointments, plus Dave has been been struggling with the fit of his prosthetic leg for the past 2 years. Hopefully that is about to change and we are thinking of riding the motorcycles north to the wilds of PA to Benezette this weekend to see the elk. Pennsylvania does not have as dramatic scenery as the states along the Rockies but even the Appalachians are beautiful in a subtler way.

In other news I got a part time job(3 days/week) at a Pet Supplies Plus taking care of their animals. I knew a lot from my former petstore job but that was over 10 years ago. Much has changed and I have forgotten some things so right now I am at the overwhelmed stage. I am hoping to be a blessing to my employers and to experience the satisfaction of doing the best job I can for them. They do not handle saltwater but they do have a very nice freshwater section.

 

[Michael Hoaster]

Thanks Dawn. I just love this time of year! I hate that summer is ending but I love the color. I grew up in the suburbs of Atlanta. The southern Appalachians always blew me away with their vivid colors and their variety of color. Nowadays, I like to follow the colors, starting at elevation, and moving all the way down to the desert. Our anniversary in October coincides perfectly with desert fall colors.

Congrats on the new job! That sounds nice. Enjoy!

 

[vlangel]

I too am conflicted about summer ending but like you, I enjoy the amazing colors of autumn. Our backyard has mature deciduous trees that make for a spectacular fall palette of color at its peak. It's pretty surprising for a suburban neighborhood but we bought this home because of the beautiful lot it sat on, ( that and it was a great deal since the house needed some TLC).

I am hoping that our motorcycle ride to Benezette has some fall foliage already in progress since it is north.

So you made quite a geographical change from Atlanta suburbs to CO, the Rocky mountain state! How long have you been in Colorado?
Dave and I live less than 10 miles from where we grew up( we met and worked on the same farm as teens, so lived fairly close to each other). The area we grew up in is rural and we both like farms. Unfortunately about all we could afford is our 2 acre farmette. Actually it is plenty since we have fruit trees, and a garden and tons of wildlife.

 

[vlangel]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vgL5XJYPzC5pzXnX9

Speaking of the wildlife that I love so much, look what I just saw out my window in my fenced garden LOL? Apparently my deer fence is not deer proof, LOL!

 

[Michael Hoaster]

We've been in Colorado since 1999. My brother moved out here first, and he kept telling me how great it was. With year-round fun, it's just a matter of picking the right toy.

Gorgeous shot of your garden and yard! Who can blame the dear? We have a fenced section of our yard for a garden and our dogs to run around. Bears routinely break in and often take a dip in my 6 foot diameter pond.

 

[Chasmodes]

Sorry I haven't been around much lately. So much 'outside fun' right now, so the tank gets neglected. I'm sure I'll get back in gear as it gets colder.

Hah, that's my excuse! (along with work, bleh)

I saw that pond and thought about what fish I could collect for my river tank in there

So how's the tank doing now?

 

[Michael Hoaster]

Yep, it's been a slack aquarist's summer for me. Hopefully, I'll get my act together soon. I just can't get motivated to work on the tank. Plus, I wanted to see how the new herbivores did, as far as algae clean-up goes. So, I've let the tank run wild. Stanley, the new Sailfin Tang looks like he's starting to make a dent in the Caulerpa, but I don't think it's his first choice. I've been feeding the tank only once a day, so they will be 'motivated' to graze naturally, and they have.

I decided to break tank work into smaller 'bites', to help me get working on it. So I just cleaned the glass last weekend. It was manageable but with all the spiroid worms and coralline algae, it was tougher than usual. Now, I'm going after sand bed caulerpa and cyanobacteria. I'm just doing a little, every few days, so it's not overwhelming.

The seagrass is once again overgrown and coated with calcium and coralline. It's great that it grows up to the surface but it could use a simulated manatee grazing event. So the tanks doing ok, but could be prettier.

 

[Michael Hoaster]

I might as well post a pic, with the glass cleaned up. Full tank shot. Kinda shaggy. The grasses are shading the patch reef. The san bed caulerpa hides the cyanobacteria, but it's there. You can see the area I cleaned up on the right end of the grasses.

 

[Chasmodes]

Wow, that looks fantastic! The grass is thickening up nicely!

Do you have any pics of your new(est) fish?

 

[Michael Hoaster]

Thanks Kevin! It's thick alright! Almost reminds me of your river tank.

I was just thinking about getting pics of the new fish. They aren't particularly cooperative, but I really should. Time for a fish photoshoot!

You'd never know from the pic above but they really are active and add tons of interest. My little three fish harem of Royal Grammas is doing very well. They're a close-knit group, and look to be approaching spawning age! Even the new little Talbots's Damsels are settling in, and they look gorgeous. One has taken up residence in a barnacle! They eat a little algae too, along with pods.

Scarlett, the Tomini Tang swims so gracefully, I'm tempted to change her name to Grace! Stanley the Sailfin Tang isn't nearly as graceful, but when he flares his fins, he's pretty impressive.

I still have three Allen's Damsels, and I'm still impressed by their blue shimmer, even though they've gotten pretty big. Most damsels get mean and dull-colored as they get older. These guys are definitely not as nice as they were as juveniles, but they're still pretty mellow, for damsels. Of all the damsels I've tried, these are my favorites.