What anemone is this?

[crissie]

Don't all Crispa have pick tips? Although given it's just arrived and doesn't look overly happy it may well have them.

 

[shred5]

Don't all Crispa have pick tips? Although given it's just arrived and doesn't look overly happy it may well have them.

No.. both can have pink or purple tips.
That anemone he has is beyond bleached so using its tentacles to id makes it hard.. Usually malu is more blunt and short where crispa's are longer but when bleached they both can look the same. The anemone in my avatar is a crispa.

That could very well be a malu.. Looking form the top it resembles a malu more than a crispa but when bleached crispa's pull their tentacles in too like that sometimes.. The column is the best way to tell.

 

[Postal]

They are not "supposed" to be cream or yellow. They come in multiple colors including purple and multiple shades of tan/brown. You can't readily identify nems by the color of the tentacles in most cases.

 

[crissie]

No.. both can have pink or purple tips.
That anemone he has is beyond bleached so using its tentacles to id makes it hard.. Usually malu is more blunt and short where crispa's are longer but when bleached they both can look the same. The anemone in my avatar is a crispa.

That could very well be a malu.. Looking form the top it resembles a malu more than a crispa but when bleached crispa's pull their tentacles in too like that sometimes.. The column is the best way to tell.

That anemone is only slightly paler than the one I had which was very healthy (and still is, although now in a friends tank). So to assume it is extremely bleached, as opposed to a white Malu with white tips, is a tad unfair on it. Although saying that, I have never seen a Crispa with it's tentacles pulled in. Naturally the column would be best.

They are not "supposed" to be cream or yellow. They come in multiple colors including purple and multiple shades of tan/brown. You can't readily identify nems by the color of the tentacles in most cases.

If it is cream/yellow H. Malu it is supposed to look like that.

 

[shred5]

That anemone is only slightly paler than the one I had which was very healthy (and still is, although now in a friends tank). So to assume it is extremely bleached, as opposed to a white Malu with white tips, is a tad unfair on it. Although saying that, I have never seen a Crispa with it's tentacles pulled in. Naturally the column would be best.



If it is cream/yellow H. Malu it is supposed to look like that.

That anemone is bleached. It may not be 100 percent or the worst I have seen but it is bleached. Can it be brought back, sure it can with proper care and feedings. i have brought several back myself. The one in my avatar was slightly bleached. Like has been said there is not a white malu, cream or tan is one thing but not white. Zooxanthellae are brown and give the anemone the brown color, when there is no Zooxanthellae present a anemone is white. A anemone can expel its Zooxanthellae and still retain its pigments..

 

[crissie]

That anemone is bleached. It may not be 100 percent or the worst I have seen but it is bleached. Can it be brought back, sure it can with proper care and feedings. i have brought several back myself. The one in my avatar was slightly bleached. Like has been said there is not a white malu, cream or tan is one thing but not white.

I didn't say it's not bleached, I said to assume it is extremely bleached (or beyond bleached I believe was the original term used) is wrong. When I first got mine it was the same as this, and for a long time I felt that I wasn't meeting it's needs as the colour only improved slightly, when in actually fact that was it's natural colour.

 

[shred5]

I didn't say it's not bleached, I said to assume it is extremely bleached (or beyond bleached I believe was the original term used) is wrong. When I first got mine it was the same as this, and for a long time I felt that I wasn't meeting it's needs as the colour only improved slightly, when in actually fact that was it's natural colour.

Really we are going to argue grades of bleached.. People ask why I dont post much anymore well this is why.

 

[crissie]

Really we are going to argue grades of bleached.. People ask why I dont post much anymore well this is why.

I wasn't attempting to argue with anyone.

I am simply stating this anemone is identical to my old one, which turned out to be an off white/cream colour. I had already clarified that a "white Malu" (as it is commonly known) is actually cream. It is you who keeps coming back about how it is definitely bleached etc. No-one, including myself, has disputed this.

 

[Rippinfrags]

It's a Heteractis Malu. It's suppose to be white. Their tips come in various colours (mine were purple), including white. Bit of a pain to care for, they prefer sand but also like to be close to the surface (lagoon dwellers). They're also not very good hosts for clown fish if that was your reason for purchase. Juveniles are okay with them, but most adult clowns don't bother to host in them.

I will clarify. H. Malu is supposed to be cream or yellow (sometimes with patches of a dark yellow or orange). Depending on where it has come from, I believe (but might have gotten this backwards) Hawaiian Malu are more likely to be white/cream.

This is true, but to my knowledge they are the only species which (as adults) host in H. Malu. That's why I said most, not all, clown fish don't like it. Almost all juveniles will use it though, not matter what their species.

Don't all Crispa have pick tips? Although given it's just arrived and doesn't look overly happy it may well have them.

Where did you gather information that adult clowns do not accept h. Malus? My adult ocellaris clownfish loved my h. Malu and my current adult a. Percula wont leave it alone. I have also seen and read about multiple other clownfish species to take up an h. Malu as there host anemone.

 

[crissie]

Where did you gather information that adult clowns do not accept h. Malus? My adult ocellaris clownfish loved my h. Malu and my current adult a. Percula wont leave it alone. I have also seen and read about multiple other clownfish species to take up an h. Malu as there host anemone.

It's available left right and centre, a quick google will pull up loads of results.

I have heard of some Ocellaris liking it, but never before of a Percula (neither true or false)!

ETA - their dislike for it is in the wild where they have many choices, if choice is limited this would naturally be different.

 

[davocean]

Sebae Anemone Heteractis malu will host:

A. clarkii - Clark's Clownfish
Premnas biaculeatus - Maroon Clownfish

These are natural host matches for Malu, and quite often other clowns will accept a Malu as an alternative to their natural host.
I've seen a number of adult percs accept a Malu, including my own pair of picasso's.

 

[crissie]

Yes, this is me forgetting that not everyone does things the same way I do. I only chose corals/anemone/fish which would naturally interact in the wild.

Sorry for the confusion, I forget not everyone does that!

 

[davocean]

Yes, this is me forgetting that not everyone does things the same way I do. I only chose corals/anemone/fish which would naturally interact in the wild.

Sorry for the confusion, I forget not everyone does that!

I'm just posting factual information, not everyone does that here either, and many also will not admit they have posted incorrect info or recognize info that contradicts their opinions.

 

[SDguy]

Yes, this is me forgetting that not everyone does things the same way I do. I only chose corals/anemone/fish which would naturally interact in the wild.

Sorry for the confusion, I forget not everyone does that!

You only keep biotopes? Impressive! Would love to see some pics!

 

[crissie]

Can't say I have ever hear the term biotypes, but if that means types which are foun in the wild together then yes.

I haven't got my camera today (my sister has borrowed it) but I can put some pics on tomorrow. My old aquarium was much larger and I feel better, but after an injury I had to downgrade.

 

[SDguy]

I'm not sure how scientifically accurate it is, but usually tanks that only contain specimens that would be found together in the wild are called biotopes in this hobby. Caribbean biotopes are a bit easier to do, since identifying the specimens is easier. Areas of the Pacific are a lot harder to do, if for no other reason than knowing the origin of the specimen can be difficult.

 

[crissie]

I'm just posting factual information, not everyone does that here either, and many also will not admit they have posted incorrect info or recognize info that contradicts their opinions.

I am not sure I understand this?

 

[crissie]

I'm not sure how scientifically accurate it is, but usually tanks that only contain specimens that would be found together in the wild are called biotopes in this hobby. Caribbean biotopes are a bit easier to do, since identifying the specimens is easier. Areas of the Pacific are a lot harder to do, if for no other reason than knowing the origin of the specimen can be difficult.

Ah I see! My current tank is based around Apo Reef near the Philippines, although it is not possible to source corals directly from there (they are protected) so I settle for only using the same species.

 

[BiggsTheGoalie]

I am not sure I understand this?

I believe he was giving you kudos for admitting that you were, well, not wrong, but admitted that contextually slightly incorrect.

 

[crissie]

I believe he was giving you kudos for admitting that you were, well, not wrong, but admitted that contextually slightly incorrect.

Ah right! These things go over my head sometime!

In that case, thank you Davocean, but I do end up apologising a lot, I get easily muddled!