what eats bryopsis
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muffe
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Though they are advertised as exclusive eaters of Bryopsis, Atlantic Lettuce Slug or Lettuce Nudi will not eat Bryopsis. Even if they did eat Byropsis it would be at a rate much slower than the spread. This animal is not the same as the Sea Hare mentioned earlier. I have no experience with Sea Hares.
The Tuxedo Urchin may eat Bryopsis but will much more likely to be inclined to wear it as a hat. Both of these animals (Lettuce Nudi and Tuxedo Urchin) have had zero effect on reducing Bryopsis in my tank. They do make interesting invertebrates and are welcomed in my tank despite failing to succeed in my war with Bryopsis.
What has worked was using M tech in a syringe and target application and manual removal with tweezers. However the Bryopsis came back months later. Now I'm going round two this time but have decided to couple my targeted attack of M tech with a sustained magnesium level of 1800 - 2200 for three continuous weeks after visible eradication.
If this plan fails to solve it permanently I will try the overpopulation of various crab clean up crew.
I have a thriving population of Collonista Snails and they do not eat the Bryopsis in my tank.
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AcroporAddict
There is no substitute.
Now why would I want to do that? I've used it and it killed the bryopsis in my 300 gallon SPS tank. A 'lil research on the web will find hundreds of posts stating the same experience. No need to prove it to anyone. It works. Your choice is to settle for controlling it, when it can be eliminated. To each their own.
Again, it is not the magnesium in the Tech M, but one of the trace ions in the Tech M that kills the bryopsis.
AcroporAddict
There is no substitute.
You'll get rid of it doing what you plan to.
buckster
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IME I have seen them eat it like mad. But then again, no two Emerald crabs are alike. Maybe some do and some don't. But IME they did eat it.
AcroporAddict
There is no substitute.
Agreed...same thing regarding bubble algae. Some emeralds eat it and some don't.
Allmost
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I dose copper for my SPS ... to make their colors lighter. of course at very low concentration every 14 days.
JPMagyar, Hmmmmm, dont tempt me !! lol, so you will pay for the tech M ?! lol
I really need a reason before I add anything to my tank, and if no-one can tell me the reason, its not science, and not a fact and therefore not for me, how ever well it may work for someone else. we do not have high lab grade test kits for our seawaters, so in some situations, it may be low lithium causing Bryopsis ... which tech M can solve, In that case only!
as for Tech M being CURE and not control ?!! CURE is competition for nutrition available for bryopsis, like growing macro algae or bacterioplankton ... not magnesium ... or at least IMO.
same goes for kalk IMHO, it will bond to po4 and percipitate. sure it may kill bryopsis, but then its a ticking bomb till some other algae uses its enzymes to uptake the po4 !
the tuxido urchin has been on a patch of bryopsis for 2 days now, waiting for it to move so I can see how it did there. will update if it works or if I try another animal.
thanks alot everyone for the kind and friendly exchange of info
really got to love it.
AcroporAddict
There is no substitute.
Zeospur 2?
Bryopsis is not typical in nutrient control being the way to get rid of it. You cannot starve it out. And if you have read any of my previous posts in this thread, I have repeatedly stated that it is not the magnesium in Tech M that kills the Bryopsis, but one of the trace ions in the Tech M that kills it.
Tech M most certainly is the cure for bryopsis- it eliminates it from a reef system when used properly.
Nutrient reduction is only a control. All you can hope to do via this method is slow the growth, not eliminate it.
Everyone here is free to have their opinion, but you are speaking as one who has never tried Tech M to get rid of bryopsis in their system. I have done both methods. Nutrient control will not eliminate bryopsis from a reef system. Tech M removes it completely. I have experience in both methods to back up my statements.
You started this thread asking for help with a bryopsis problem for your friend, and five people who have used it successfully have told you that Tech M is the way to go, but you argue against it even though you have never used it and have no experience with it. Why even ask for advice when you argue against what is offered?
It is commonly known in the reefing community that Tech M kills bryopsis, and it has been used for several years by hundreds of reefers to rid tanks of bryopsis. The method is nothing new, and it works.
Allmost
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I would double check the attitude.
really not needed ...
as stated, if you cant tell me WHY it works, it doesnt. simple and easy. Im too logical and scientific.
thanks for your comments, I really do appreciate it, and I asked what animal would eat it
I didnt ask about magnesium if you like to get technical.thread was going SOO well before you started pushing you opinion to others, lets agree to disagree. I have noted your post
PS. if so confident you should take up JPMagyar on his offer ! I cand send you some Bryopsis since you have cured yours
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david pinder
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Have this bryosis problem in one of my tanks have added 10 emerald crabs no help, have added 3 sea hares there eating the brown algae off the rocks but havent touched the bryopsis. in the process of adding teck m was a litlle low at 1000p anyway. Was debating to get a rabbit fish but really hate to addd another fish especially when some says it didnt help them. 700 gal grass farm loaded with sps
endlessblue
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Raising the mag works just keep checking and triple checking. I oversized my mistake and ya stuff dies . But it truly works
That crap never came back!
. But it truly worksThat crap never came back!
AcroporAddict
There is no substitute.
I would double check the attitude.
really not needed ...
as stated, if you cant tell me WHY it works, it doesnt. simple and easy. Im too logical and scientific.
thanks for your comments, I really do appreciate it, and I asked what animal would eat it
thread was going SOO well before you started pushing you opinion to others, lets agree to disagree. I have noted your post
PS. if so confident you should take up JPMagyar on his offer ! I cand send you some Bryopsis since you have cured yours
If you don't like the way I post, then click the little report button in the lower left corner. You do not own this thread, and you do not have the authority to define the parameters that others may post in it. The Moderators do, and I will happily bow to their judgement of anything I have posted here.
Claiming that something doesn't work because you don't know why it works is not logical or scientific. Far from it, actually. One of the pitfalls of our hobby is a lack of direct scientific research in many areas, and anecdotal experience has had to step in and fill the gap. (Do not cite this product: banned.)--ed: sk8r
You go ahead and keep your bryopsis. I wouldn't wish that plague on anyone. It is not a matter of confidence that Tech M does/does not kill bryopsis. It does work, and there is really nothing to prove in that area.
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Allmost
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my friend, I do appreciate your comment and I did read it, but no point in pushing your opinion to others, you post what you know/think and others have a choice to follow your wise words or not.
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I would appreciate it if you could tone down and not ruin this friendly thread.
and I did read it, but no point in pushing your opinion to others, you post what you know/think and others have a choice to follow your wise words or not.[banned substance: edited: sk8r]
I would appreciate it if you could tone down and not ruin this friendly thread.
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Nobody 'owns' a thread: the object of having a thread is to enable all members to take advantage of information. If you do not like the advice given, just quietly do something else. If you are giving advice, give it and be done. Readers will sort out which they prefer. Calm it down or this thread will be locked.
Allmost
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theronsta
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Sorry it took so long to reply..
http://www.aquariumslife.com/aquarium-reviews/expert-guide-marine-invertebrates-by-ronald-l-shimek/
pretty good source I'd say. They feed exclusively on algae and ive never seen them stray too far from the rocks when I flick my lights in at night.
and from Reefkeeping:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rs/index.php
Collonista [Link 1, 2] (Figure 10)
Collonista are "mini-Turbo snails." They are seldom purchased by hobbyists, but are relatively common in reef tanks anyway, because they appear to hitchhike in on live rock or in some live sand. When hobbyists first see them, they presume them to be "baby" grazers of some sort. Instead, they have some of these animals. They reach a maximum adult size of about 1/4th inch (6 mm) in height and diameter. They are often tan to white and have mottled brown color patterns on the shell. They can be distinguished from all other Trochoideans by their small size and the presence of a small pit or hole in the center of the calcareous operculum that plugs the aperture. They reproduce well in aquaria, and are quite good grazers. If present in large numbers, they may effectively replace all other grazers in our systems.
cdurkin100
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Well I for one am currently on the road to raise the mag to around the 1800 to rid my tank of this PITA algae.
I agree with AcroporAddict this stuff requires almost zero light and zero in the way of po4 or nitrate to survive, my levels are po4 at 0.02 and nitrate at zero and have been for a good while.
Im up to around the 1500 mark now using a mix of epsom salts and m-tech. I'm fully aware that the m-tech holds the ' secrect ' to killing this stuff of but with a starting reading on Mag of 1170, it would of cost a fortune in m-tech even to get it to 1500.
Anyway at 1500 now and going to raise to 1800 using the m-tech and hold for two weeks. I will let you know how it goes.
I agree with AcroporAddict this stuff requires almost zero light and zero in the way of po4 or nitrate to survive, my levels are po4 at 0.02 and nitrate at zero and have been for a good while.
Im up to around the 1500 mark now using a mix of epsom salts and m-tech. I'm fully aware that the m-tech holds the ' secrect ' to killing this stuff of but with a starting reading on Mag of 1170, it would of cost a fortune in m-tech even to get it to 1500.
Anyway at 1500 now and going to raise to 1800 using the m-tech and hold for two weeks. I will let you know how it goes.
There are plenty of things that are known to work while it isn't known WHY they work. That's why we have scientific research. To say it doesn't work when it has been used time in time again just because the why can't be explained is wrong. To say you don't want to use it because the why can't be answered is understandable. I too can say that TechM works for bryopsis. I tried raising Mg with a brightwell's supp and it did nothing. treating with TechM cured the green plague in a few weeks. I did nothing along with the Kents treatment, so it had to be the TechM. Good luck with your critter search, I can't help there outside of saying emerald crabs, lawnmower blennies, astrea snails, turbo snails, sotmatta snails and collestina snails did nothing for mine. At least you still have the chemical treatment in your back pocket if it fails
