dannieboiz
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Just picked this guy up but need to identify her b4 I put her in the display.
What kind of wrasse is this?
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Halichoeres sp. I don't know the species off the top of my head but they are all good reef fish. Large specimens will sometimes attack newly added tiny shrimp (fairy wrasses will do the same) but they are far safer than sixline wrasses in this regard, generally speaking. They will also consume bristleworms and very small snails (like pyramidellid snails). All in all about as "reef safe" as a sixline but much more peaceful with other fish. You can keep these guys with flasher wrasses, firefish, etc. without the aggressive nature.
dannieboiz
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9806881#post9806881 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by prodman
Isn't it better to ID before you bring the fish home
The LFS is actually across the street from where I work.
There is 2 way to look at this.
Go home research, come back again and hope that the fish is still there.
Or buy it, research if not bring it back.
Option 1 shows some risk of the fish not being there vs option 2 no risk involved.
Either way you're taking the chance of driving back out there.
I choose option 1.
And yes, it is a marble wrasse, appears to be reef safe but with caution. I finally made it home an hour ago, she's acclimating right now.
prodman
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9806939#post9806939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dannieboiz
The LFS is actually across the street from where I work.
There is 2 way to look at this.
Go home research, come back again and hope that the fish is still there.
Or buy it, research if not bring it back.
Option 1 shows some risk of the fish not being there vs option 2 no risk involved.
Either way you're taking the chance of driving back out there.
I choose option 1.
And yes, it is a marble wrasse, appears to be reef safe but with caution. I finally made it home an hour ago, she's acclimating right now.
No risk for you maybe but I was thinking of the fish.
My thoughts exactly.
And for the record we have often seen a fish that we liked and walked away to go research it before purchasing it, sometimes a full day later.
Want to set off some rants ? talk about buying a fish just to put it into your sump.. that will usually do it
, and rightfully so !!
dannieboiz
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You guys must be kidding right? I'm a reefer not a saint.
Do you honestly think the fish will stress and die for being bagged and then released back in the tank shortly after?.
If you serious think this way I don't think you folks should be a reefer because shipping them from their native location to your LFS over nighted on the plane and being tossed around by different people is more of a risk than bagging it drive it down the street and releasing it.
Do you honestly think the fish will stress and die for being bagged and then released back in the tank shortly after?.
If you serious think this way I don't think you folks should be a reefer because shipping them from their native location to your LFS over nighted on the plane and being tossed around by different people is more of a risk than bagging it drive it down the street and releasing it.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9809262#post9809262 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dannieboiz
You guys must be kidding right? I'm a reefer not a saint.
Do you honestly think the fish will stress and die for being bagged and then released back in the tank shortly after?.
Dannie, I don't think people are playing the holier than thou card, they just want what's best for the animal. I've spent way too many years working at LFS to know that your protocol is not what's in the best interest of the animal. Bagging and un-bagging a fish, is stressful period. I don't think anyone was making a, personal attack on you, I think I would call it dismay as you are someone with a good amount of experience in the hobby.
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I personaly am not kidding.Its too bad that you think responsible reef keeping is BS . And the example you give is the same one I would use as an argument for why its not a good idea to add stress to an already stressed fish. Not to mention this the second post of yours like this in the last week. So this is starting to look like a habit.
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Twisted
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Actually if the store just got them in, then re-bagged them, and you took them home, the stress that is involved on top of the stress from the previous shipping increases the likely hood of death.
I will not ***** at you over it, because I would do the same thing in your situation. If I was right there saw a fish I really liked I would probably buy it, take it home, and if it didn't work out, I would take it back to the store.
I work in a fish store part time, and I get people bringing back fish all the time, usually because they didn't ask me or my boss about the fish before they bought it.
If a customer really wants to know, I will answer questions on what I know, if I am not sure about the fish, I will look him up in one of the many books I have on hand, and if I can't find the answer there, I will go in the office and look it up online.
Every fish has it's own personality, so of course anything I find in the book, or online, is just a common temperament, but it gives a customer a good idea of what to expect.
If your LFS is unable to, or unwilling to help you find out if a fish is going to work for you, then you don't have a lot of options.
Another option I usually give people, is if they ask me too, and usually only for customers I know, I will put the fish on a hold for a few hours while you go research it yourself, or until you get off work type thing.
Like I said, I understand the original poster stand point I would not ever criticize someone for doing things the way they do. It's a waste of time, if they have a reason, then they have a reason.
But as for the people who are jumping in to tell him he is doing it wrong, I will agree, that there are better ways, but pointing out a better way rather then just saying they are doing it wrong will get better results.
I agree there is a risk in the way he is doing it, but if it works for him, then go for it, but in releasing new stock in the store last night I had two fish go into cardiac from the shipping, so out of probably 60 fish I lost two in shipping. Of course how many are goners today when I go into the store is going to be a whole another story.
I will not ***** at you over it, because I would do the same thing in your situation. If I was right there saw a fish I really liked I would probably buy it, take it home, and if it didn't work out, I would take it back to the store.
I work in a fish store part time, and I get people bringing back fish all the time, usually because they didn't ask me or my boss about the fish before they bought it.
If a customer really wants to know, I will answer questions on what I know, if I am not sure about the fish, I will look him up in one of the many books I have on hand, and if I can't find the answer there, I will go in the office and look it up online.
Every fish has it's own personality, so of course anything I find in the book, or online, is just a common temperament, but it gives a customer a good idea of what to expect.
If your LFS is unable to, or unwilling to help you find out if a fish is going to work for you, then you don't have a lot of options.
Another option I usually give people, is if they ask me too, and usually only for customers I know, I will put the fish on a hold for a few hours while you go research it yourself, or until you get off work type thing.
Like I said, I understand the original poster stand point I would not ever criticize someone for doing things the way they do. It's a waste of time, if they have a reason, then they have a reason.
But as for the people who are jumping in to tell him he is doing it wrong, I will agree, that there are better ways, but pointing out a better way rather then just saying they are doing it wrong will get better results.
I agree there is a risk in the way he is doing it, but if it works for him, then go for it, but in releasing new stock in the store last night I had two fish go into cardiac from the shipping, so out of probably 60 fish I lost two in shipping. Of course how many are goners today when I go into the store is going to be a whole another story.
dannieboiz
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This is probably the most unbias post out of most of the responses about me bagging the fish and taking it home.
FYI: I did not buy this fish w/o first attempting to identify it. I called a friend also a BAR member and ask him as well as spent a bit of time with the owner of the store to search online to identify the fish. We did manage to see the Marble Wrasse and thought that it was it. However, we couldn't tell clearly by the pictures due to the juvy vs the adult coloration.
My purpose of posting this thread was to confirm and identify the fish b4 I put it in the display.
I challenge any of you that criticize me about my action to step up and say that you've never at least once in your reefing time did anything that could have endanger a specimen.
But then again, you'll be the only one who'll know this fact. You don't need to response, just ask yourself and hope you sleep well at night knowing that you're more of responsible reefer than I am.
Mods, please lock this thread as it's becoming useless!
hawaiianwargod
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9809612#post9809612 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rhaey
Taking the fish from it's original habitat is the mother of all stress creator. When I move from my original habitat to the US, it was very stressful. The acclimation was rough...
Very true Rhaey! So, are you now fully acclimated?:rollface:
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