What rare angel is the least owned?

[Angel*Fish]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9712310#post9712310 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zemuron114
There was a pair in Colorado? lol How the heck did they get there?

Masked angels are known to be avid skiers - also they enjoy blending in with the snow

And um - I was wondering about that, too :lol:

 

[coralite]

Actually at the time I was working in Atlanta but does it really matter where it was? Either way, in person I thought the female was the more attractive of the two; the orange on the male was not as vivid as you see in most pictures.

 

[revclyburn]

Of all the rare,

and not so rare angel, which is the easiest to get as a mated pair, or just a pair? I working on creating CHAOS with a all Angel tank, or at least give it a shot. I would love to have a small harem of Centropyge Boylei, but I know that's not going to happens anytime soon, if ever. And with RCT not selling, it's getting harder to get a lot of rare angels in pairs.

So what would be the easiest and where can I get them?

RevClyburn

 

[zemuron114]

most angels are found in harems. I know Bandits are found in singles or mated pairs. But a mated pair of bandits is hard to get and very pricey.

 

[triggerfish1976]

I have been able to get most of the Genicanthus Angels in pairs and when I have seen Personatus for sale over the years they have usually been offered in pairs.
You can usually get two angels in any of the larger genus (one smaller than the other) and try and get them to pair up. I bought a small and med sized meredithi and they spend all day hanging out together in the tank. Centropyge Angels can also be paired up on occasion but I have found this to be a little bit more difficult to do compared to larger angels.
Pairing the fish up yourself may not result in them becoming a "mated pair" but they may become a "bonded pair" and since you plan on having multiple fish in one tank, the latter should suffice. If you have your heart set on mated pairs and plan on trying to breed them you will find that obtaining a newly collected mated pair is going to be very expensive and expect to wait a while.

 

[coralite]

I would think that the easiest centropyge angelfish to pair for certain would be those which have strong sexual dimorphism such as the interruptus and the keyhole angel.

 

[triggerfish1976]

I find that the centropyge are more inclined to fight as they get older.

 

[cherubfish pair]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9700778#post9700778 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by the cattleman
I know inlandaquatics.com sells pairs and trios of cherubfish. Will a 40 gallon long with lots of live rock be enough for a trio?

I've got my chiller and ASM G-3 for my 40 gallon long (48"). I'm planning for a nice refugium and lots of TBS liverock. Could I get by with a Cherubfish trio?

 

[bandedangel]

personatus

personatus

there's none in Colorado !! maybe years and years ago, but not now.

 

[copps]

It's much easier to say what there is than what they're isn't... While not in Colorado, there are privately owned personatus out there in the states...

 

[coralite]

Once again, this transaction was in Atlanta, not in colorado. This gentleman is a true rare fish collector. Money is no object to this man's obsession with the rarest fish. I am sure that there are some people on this board who deal with him from time to time. In addition to the personatus pair, he has also brought in the sunrise bodianus, wrought iron bflys, clarion passer hybrid and a pair of clipperton angels to boot.

 

[triggerfish1976]

I have contacted several HI collectors and they have all told me the same thing, none of these fish have made it into the trade for several years. I am not sure if this meant the North American trade because I have seen two different pairs in Japanese stores in the last 3 years. I didn't get a lot of info on these fish but I know that one of the pairs was recently collected. I believe the other pair came out of someone's tank but they had bought it from the same store a year prior.

 

[triggerfish1976]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9749314#post9749314 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralite
Once again, this transaction was in Atlanta, not in colorado. This gentleman is a true rare fish collector. Money is no object to this man's obsession with the rarest fish. I am sure that there are some people on this board who deal with him from time to time. In addition to the personatus pair, he has also brought in the sunrise bodianus, wrought iron bflys, clarion passer hybrid and a pair of clipperton angels to boot.

I believe I have dealt with this person. Does he also sell rare fish?

Not to be nit picky but the only fish that you noted on your list that compares in rarity to Personatus are Clippertons. The rest of those fish can be obtained without having to throw money around to get the right people's attention. I think there are three different online vendors offering Wrought Irons right now for less than a grand. Clarions can be a little more tricky but again they can be had for about 1/10 of the cost of a pair of Personatus.

 

[LargeAngels]

He listed clarion/passer hybrids, not just clarions.

 

[triggerfish1976]

I know. I meant to type Clarion/passer.

 

[LargeAngels]

I thought Clarion/passer hybrids were going for big bucks and were uncommon?

 

[triggerfish1976]

Define big bucks?
The couple of Personatus pairs that I have seen were going for $12,000? The Clarion/Passers were going for about $3,000. Obviously not 1/10 but still a huge difference. I can also go to Japan or Hong Kong certain times of the year and find Passer/Clarion hybrids.

 

[LargeAngels]

There was a thread stating that the last clarion/passer hybrid went for $7,500.

 

[triggerfish1976]

The $3000 price was how much I saw them for in Hong Kong last year around March. Maybe they have gone up since then.

 

[coralite]

The fish I listed had all been obtained by 2001. Back then, Many fish were much less available than they are now so you can imagine how much more some of them cost. The quality of clarion passer hybrids varies with individual fish. Just like townsend angels, various lemonpeel hybrids and other large angel hybrids, the appearance of the hybrid offspring can vary depending the sex of the parent species. I was fortunate enough to watch his hybrid grow up from juvenile to sub adulthood. It was fascinating to see which species' colors would dominate the overall appearance of the fish as it grew.