What surprised you about the cost of maintaining 400+ tank?

cwegescheide

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Well I am planning my 400 display and just about to start buying equipment. What did you not expect when you set up your big tank that surprised you? How much / month does your system cost to maintain? Including water changes, supplements, electricity etc..

Thanks,
Chris
 
I have a 330 with about 75 in the sump. I run two sequence return pumps, 2 circulators, 2 current 1040 outer orbit lights, acIII, shorty compact skimmer, 2 uv units, and an ro/di. I do a 60 gal. change about once a month (if needed) so everything including food, salt, kalk I average $200.00 a month. Any critters etc would be over and above that.
 
Re: What surprised you about the cost of maintaining 400+ tank?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8531602#post8531602 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cwegescheide
Well I am planning my 400 display and just about to start buying equipment. What did you not expect when you set up your big tank that surprised you?

I did not expect the piece of crap chiller I got to run 5min on and 5 min off year round regardless of anything done to it. It wastes an insane amount of electricity. That is one aspect of the system that due to multiple reasons outside of my control got short changed. It shows too. It was not bad planning, but rather bad circumstances. In retrospect, I would have done it very differently.
 
You know, when you start thinking about 200/month just to run the damn thing this IS an expensive hobby... I guess its not THAT much more than my 90 though.... I guess.. hmmm
 
Hey! What you trying to do!! We dont talk about that stuff!! What if our wives read this post!!!

Just keep it on the downlow man.



:D
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8604168#post8604168 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stlouisguy
Hey! What you trying to do!! We dont talk about that stuff!! What if our wives read this post!!!

Just keep it on the downlow man.



:D

Hey stlouis!! I am building a 451!!! So take that!!! :lol: actually its going to be (I think) 8'x36"x26"

Maybe we should start talking in code so just incase our better halfs read this stuff they wont be tipped off!! :D

Happy Thanksgiving,
Chris
 
Yeah, all prices must be given in tenths. Like instead of rock being $6 a pound, its $.60 a pound and salt is like $3.50 a bucket instead of $35


Happy Thanksgiving to all!
 
Re: Re: What surprised you about the cost of maintaining 400+ tank?

Re: Re: What surprised you about the cost of maintaining 400+ tank?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8603562#post8603562 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dgasmd
I did not expect the piece of crap chiller I got to run 5min on and 5 min off year round regardless of anything done to it. It wastes an insane amount of electricity. That is one aspect of the system that due to multiple reasons outside of my control got short changed. It shows too. It was not bad planning, but rather bad circumstances. In retrospect, I would have done it very differently.

Which chiller do you own?
 
SALT!! I'm runnin about 450-500gals in my current system.. Doing a water change every week, basically a bag of salt a week.. Didn't even think about it before hand.
 
I didn't expect to have so many equipment failures. Between leaky/corroding pumps and failed electronic MH ballasts, it felt like I was constantly replacing failed equipment. Even under warrantee this is a pain in the rear.

jayo
 
Never thought about the humidity issues a large system. Now I have a $1300 dehumidifier to keep the house dry.
Also did not expect the extra $100 electric bill.
 
well, my only "surprise" was that I planned a QT tank that is way too small. If I were to make any major changes, that would be first on my list. When I designed the system, I assumed I would only be bringing in one thing at a time, but in reality, I bring 10 to 20 at a time! ooops...

A lot of people are surprised by the costs, but I knew up front I would have to contend with that issue. I designed my 1,200g system with serious electrical conservation in mind.

1. I have no chiller and use fans blowing over the tank as well as an exhaust fan to remove the warm air. It is replaced with cool air coming in from under my deck.

2. I use only one Hammerhead to provide return flow. I am a proponent of lower flow sumps. That pump feeds a manifold which returns water to the display, refugium, and other equipment.

3. I use 4 Vortech pumps for flow in the main display producing 12,000+ gph at under 140W.

4. My skimmer is gravity fed directly from the coast-to-coast overflow.

5. My refugium is above the display and gravity feeds into the display.

6. My skimmer is driven soley by one Alita 100 using 125W.

7. I light my tank with three 1000W 20K MH lamps, two of which are on movers and one is in a stationary dish reflector. It sounds like a lot of light but it actually cuts down on total wattage for a tank this size...
 
SALT!! I'm runnin about 450-500gals in my current system.. Doing a water change every week, basically a bag of salt a week.. Didn't even think about it before hand.


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I'm not trying to insult your intelligence but, with that high of a water volume you shouldn't need water changes every week. I have about 400 total volume and I water change about 60 gallons every 6-8 weeks.
 
I'd think if you had 450 total gallons water volume you wouldn't have to do as frequent changes as you would with a 90 gallon tank. I think if/when the time comes that my 400 display comes to fruition I'd do monthly or bi-monthly 20% changes.

Chris
 
IMHO, the higher the water volume the more stable the parameters. If your parameters aren't stable then look for the cause. Maybe it's as easy as a bigger clean up crew. I just added a 2nd sandsifting goby and see a major difference in just 5 days. I was doing 6 week changes just because I was cleaning the sand. I may not need them that often now. My ph, cal., amon., nitrite and nitrate stay very stable.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8608567#post8608567 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by prugs
Never thought about the humidity issues a large system. Now I have a $1300 dehumidifier to keep the house dry.
Also did not expect the extra $100 electric bill.

What dehumidifier did you get ??
 
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