Where are your chillers

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1985016

this is a thread with some recent pics.

The light is suspended above the tank on a makeshift light stand until the canopy arrives.

My stand is open in the back and its about 4 inches from the wall.

What kind of maxijet? Chiller manual says I need a 400-650gph pump - but that seems like a lot. This chiller it looks like was made for hydroponics.
 
i dont have a chiller in my tank .. i use fan on a apex to keep the tank cool... i know alot of people remote the chiller outside not to add heat to the tank from the chiller working under the tank..

+1
even when I run 4 metal halide
Now my number problem is to heat up the tank since I switch to LEDs
 
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1985016

this is a thread with some recent pics.

The light is suspended above the tank on a makeshift light stand until the canopy arrives.

My stand is open in the back and its about 4 inches from the wall.

What kind of maxijet? Chiller manual says I need a 400-650gph pump - but that seems like a lot. This chiller it looks like was made for hydroponics.

Anyone who needs a chiller for hydroponics doesn't know what they're doing. .67gpw, what?

All (large) chillers are essentially the same. They are made to cool any non-flammable liquid, and all operate on the same principal. You can put something other than the recommended flow through them, but it won't operate at peak efficiency. If it's way too slow, you may run into freezing issues in the heat exchanger. Too fast and the water doesn't have enough contact time to dump its heat energy into the coolant.
 
No chiller here...Always use my clip on fans and my tank stays at 79 during the heats peak...

You can get cheap clip on ones from walmart
 
I run a half horse power chiller and have it in my garage. When I purchased my house in 97, I had 1" flex PVC lines run around the perimeter of the house 18" underground from behind the tank to the garage. The run is about 50' each direction. Its nice because there is no noise having in the garage and its protected from the elements. Only down side is that it does heat the garage in the summer but that's not a big deal.
 
http://www.ronshimek.com/salinity_temperature.html

run your tank at a higher temp. most people keep their reefs too cool and use more electricity than needed.

my tank was up to 83.5 degrees yesterday

Hey Carl, Thanks for the link. Good gouge. I purchased some coral frags the other day and they were not looking good. I was assuming it was my temp that was about 85 degrees so I purchased a chiller - things look a little better but after reading the article I'm concerned that I may have a water quality issue that I can't put my finger on. Do you still have that fancy hanna testing kit?

p.s. I'm the kid who purchased the ballast from you a while ago, wow that was like two years ago now I think.

@Slief - nice work man. i wish I had a house, space in limited in my little apt and it doesn't help I'm on the 5th floor.
 
http://www.ronshimek.com/salinity_temperature.html

run your tank at a higher temp. most people keep their reefs too cool and use more electricity than needed.

Run your tank at the temperature your organisms require, not what some guy says.

I read a fair portion of this publication, and to be perfectly honest, this guy sounds like a typical ecologist, thinking that averages and means actually mean something and thinking they can somehow encapsulate an infinite number of variables into a simple model. That and he is taking distributions to indicate an ecological ideal, and then inferring that reproduction in the center of the distribution is under less metabolic stress and therefore forms more varied gametes? Adaptive radiation is a theory, and not a very encompassing one at that...Janzen-Connell hypothesis anyone?

He also chooses Belize as one of his examples? How does choosing one of the least diverse reefs on earth prove anything about anything?
 
Randy: I didn't read as much as you did but what I got from it was your advice: Keep your tank within the range the organisms require.

So the steps to answer the questions look like this: find the species, find its distribution range, find the average temperature of the water in those areas where the species is thriving and thats your answer. Do you disagree with this?
 
I use an ACIII controller and it has a RT temperature command. It has the variation of temperatures thru the 12 months. So once its set my temperature fluxuates within .06 degress of whatever the seasonal temperature should be.

The warmer the water, the less oxygen in the water
The warmer the water, the higher the metabolic rate (I think that's what I read)
The colder the water, the more oxygen rich the water
The colder the water, the metabolic rate slows down

Kevin
 
Randy: I didn't read as much as you did but what I got from it was your advice: Keep your tank within the range the organisms require.

So the steps to answer the questions look like this: find the species, find its distribution range, find the average temperature of the water in those areas where the species is thriving and thats your answer. Do you disagree with this?

No, that is pretty much the run of it. The guy says some really intelligent and insightful things, but I have problems with the way he arrives there. These animals evolved long ago? Really? Is evolution a process that suddenly "decides" that an organisms has reached its potential and then just...stops? This is verging on creationism! Every single living thing on this earth has evolved just as long as every other thing on earth. The snowball is rolling...things don't hop off 300 million years ago because 'trilobite' was some deity's end-game.

One huge thing that he never mentions is the adaptation of Individuals, rather than species...essentially, acquired 'tolerance' of organisms. If you take a fish that has been in pH 7.6 for years and plop in into 8.3, it's probably going to kill it...but the book says 8.3 daddy! If you are running up your electric bill keeping your tank at 76F and read this and say, 'hey, what a waste?' and kick the rheostat up to 84, things aren't going to go so well. Every organisms we keep has the ability to adapt and tolerate unnatural conditions. They are in a friggin' box in our living rooms! It is drastic changes that damage fish and corals, not long slow changes. His scare-mongering comments about ranges in temperature are just that...

I am just railing against ecologists because the way they oversimplify extremely complex systems is just unrealistic and doesn't amount to much more than soft newspaper science. This is coming from someone who worked in the field as an marine ecologist for quite a few years. If the data-collection is fundamentally flawed, everything that stems from it is a grand inference.

Basically, I was scolding reefski for saying giving awful, incomplete, and potentially harmful advice. What's good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander, and to insinuate otherwise is irresponsible. Taking the fact that everyone I know has a mixed reef, with no common locality, this holds true to an even greater extent.
 
Hi Guys

Does anyone here own a coralife aqua-chiller? I have one but need a manual for it, trying to calibrate it but not sure how? Been trying to find online but I believe these chillers are not in stock any longer. Hoping someone on RC may have a manual they can copy for me...

Thanks.
 
Basically, I was scolding reefski for saying giving awful, incomplete, and potentially harmful advice. What's good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander, and to insinuate otherwise is irresponsible. Taking the fact that everyone I know has a mixed reef, with no common locality, this holds true to an even greater extent.

ha! How do I say this without scolding you! Please be polite :) Carl is a really really good guy. Disagreements are always welcome - scolding is something we do to minors.

Anyways. Thanks to everyone for the help on this thread. Its the people that really make this site awesome.
 
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