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OH! And, BTW, Natalie, what most likely happened is that you posted a vendor who once paid for advertisement on ReefCentral, and now that they don't, you're not allowed to talk about their products.

Maybe not, but with the generic message that was left, how are we to know? :rolleyes:

Brandon
 
This is my old club in FL http://pbmas.org . We are totally independant of RC and really only came on here for info. All club jargon went on in our forum. We planned all meeting, get togethers and what not on our board.

I was a founding Officer of the club and only delegated duties to the designer :). I was not the one who setup the site, and actually we had one guy doing it for a few yearsNow it is a team effort, but I have not been associated with that club in years.

Moral of the story just check out the site and look at all the resources there.
 
yea, this aint the only forum with mods who like to "look big and bad" behind their monitor. Even on a bass guitar site, they threatin' to kick you off the forum for sayin' a Music Man Bongo bass looks like a toilet seat. But in fact, it does look like a toilet seat...

Some mods should get a life. Maybe they were teased as kids or somethin'. I don't even care really...

Steve
 
Hmmmm I trust Chuck in this situation. All ideas will be considered and all advice and help are greatly appreciated. I will post when our next board meeting will be (that way it gives everyone an idea when the info is needed) and we will look over everyones ideas then. There have been alot of good ideas mentioned and Id say if theres is a change it will turn out great considering how many computer people we have in the club.
 
When you're a new member and 40% of your posts are promoting the same vendor, it's a little (pun intended) fishy. ;)
 
Most folks that tire of our rules and start their own board that is free from dictatorship :D eventually find out they need to start adding rules for the common good. Eventually, they have rules just like we do because there has to be a sense of order. While you are welcome here as a club, if you are not happy with our enforcement of the User Agreement and family-friendly rules, then perhaps you should go elsewhere so you aren't so constrained.

Or, you can realize that after ten years of running the largest reefkeeping board on the planet that we might just know what we are doing and have our membership's best interests at heart:)
 
Yeah, but Doug, 40% for a new member is what, 3? ;) :D

Makes sense, Nanook, but being a smaller board means that we could have fewer rules at least. :) And quite honestly, I think you and I both know that many people would disagree with your last statement, with all due respect. To say the least its a subjective statement. ;)

And thanks for playing nice with us. :D

Brandon
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15370065#post15370065 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Nanook
Most folks that tire of our rules and start their own board that is free from dictatorship :D eventually find out they need to start adding rules for the common good. Eventually, they have rules just like we do because there has to be a sense of order. While you are welcome here as a club, if you are not happy with our enforcement of the User Agreement and family-friendly rules, then perhaps you should go elsewhere so you aren't so constrained.

Or, you can realize that after ten years of running the largest reefkeeping board on the planet that we might just know what we are doing and have our membership's best interests at heart:)
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We don't tire of rules, we tire of bad judment enforced by dictatorship...do not confuse our concerns, dissatisfaction, or discontent with what you think it is....because after 30 years of running sites that are in the top 5 in the world and serve millions..I DO know what I am talking about beyond the exprience shown to me by RC. I DO not try and run RC..I DO expect the community to be served by it, and not the other way around.

This is our club forum, and yet even again we are not free from your instrusion of simply talking of ideas how to best serve OUR community while not breaking any terms of service which would warrant interference or intrusion. Rules are good, but those same rules apply to the mods as well, and I do not see that happening here for quite some time. We are in fact, talking about going elsewhere..but as a group and a community it is something that we will decide together...hence comments being made here.

I do beleive many of you do things with the best interest at heart, but what is in the best interest is up to us, the community, and not what mods think we want. :-) Now I do not say this with seething tone, just stating politely, openly, and honestly here.
 
Common Good, Best Interest, Dictatorship, Sense of Order,Seems like I've heard these things B4, On the junk pile of history! I think being the best reefkeeping board Is more Important than being the largest and I get a funny feeling when told someone has my best Interest at heart. We must have struck a nerve or there would not even be a response to our conversation of club matters that should be of no Interest to such a large board. Many people feel there are problems with RC moderators and maybe they should be looked at along with Inviting people to leave a site that many have paid to belong to, With not much recourse to sometimes unfair actions. Their Is always two sides to the story and both should be heard, To many vague Interpertations of a user aggrement thrown around as justifacation to an end.
 
The thing that bothers me is that after mods have read our statements they say (more less) we are right and we know what we are doing whether you realize it or not, we know what you need more than you do etc. When I would think if someone has our best intrest at heart would ask ( What is that bothers you ? What is that could be done differently that would please you more ? What actions or modifications to the site do you think would make it better ? etc. Just my opinion but thats how I thought people serving others should act.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15371037#post15371037 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by commonstranger
The thing that bothers me is that after mods have read our statements they say (more less) we are right and we know what we are doing whether you realize it or not, we know what you need more than you do etc. When I would think if someone has our best intrest at heart would ask ( What is that bothers you ? What is that could be done differently that would please you more ? What actions or modifications to the site do you think would make it better ? etc. Just my opinion but thats how I thought people serving others should act.
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So, tell me, what would you like RC to add to the "club forum to use at absolutely no charge" package we're currently giving you?
 
Hey dont cry to me your the ones offering it for free. Ive learned dont cry when your only doing what was asked of you. Correct me if Im wrong but I believe its more of attitudes and rules that have been spoken about than how much money is envolved but Im sure there are some people that would like to bring up that anyway.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15371191#post15371191 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by commonstranger
Hey dont cry to me your the ones offering it for free. Ive learned dont cry when your only doing what was asked of you. Correct me if Im wrong but I believe its more of attitudes and rules that have been spoken about than how much money is envolved but Im sure there are some people that would like to bring up that anyway.
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I'm going to do my best to respond to that, although I have to admit I'm not quite sure I understand what you're trying to say.
First off, don't try to twist this into my crying about anything. I honestly couldn't care less if your club stays here or leaves. I merely pointed out that your club is being given something for free, and your previous post appeared to be demanding more than that. I then asked you what it is specifically that you want in addition to a free forum. Your reply was the somewhat illegible quote above.
To get things straight, I will ask you again; What is it you would like to see added to your "forum at no charge" package?
At the risk of severely gumming up the works here, I'm going to add a second question.....
Do you think that after we add what ever additions you're requesting that the **price** should reflect the changes?
 
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Larry,

Obviously there are many of us that have issue swith RC staff and practices, but again Id efer to the reason this forum is here. Is it to support the reefing community or not?

Many of us pay money to the site, so I wouldn't go too far down the road of "free". RC staff chose their revenue model. The key is keeping users, because advertising revenues are generated not by the site, but by the users who participate.

A common theme seems to be amongst the attitude of staff, which you exhibited with yourself with you " could care less " statement.

How about some accountability for the mods, whom interfere with many of us dramatically..whether it be speaking up in our club forum when no reason was given for them to, interfereing with selling threads becasue they were afraid something would happen that never did, or attitude I got when I asked who the mods were accountable too several months ago because I wanted to lodge a complaint. Yet if you follow these same power players as I have, you see them abuse and violate the terms they themselves "supposedly" uphold.

Then we get insulted with holier than thou attitudes and generic statements of " your wrong and we are right"

Heck, even the emails to my personal account, which I got from a mod, had a disclosure that was a clear violation of the TOS...and..not subject to RC TOS since it was ent to my personal email through Gmail....So when I changed the disclaimer in my reply, I got the expected childlike rant from the mod.

These types of issues are what I am seeing as a common theme. The fact that there are many of us here complaining should really be viewed as issues that are very real. this isn't one person, or a singular isolated complaint.

Since you asked, the first change I would like to see is tha attitude of the staff. The second the attitude of the mods. The only feature that should be opened is the search function, that would be my feature request.

I am happy, and available to have a phone conversation and talk about specific incidences if you would like. Just PM me and let me know.

Regards,

Andy Weinberg
Paying subscriber
 
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DgenR8... I think that everyone is getting fired up over the inconsistent mod monitoring. Some people on this forum have been attacked yes, I mean attacked! There have been instances where a member has tried to get help with this problem and you (all mods) sided with each other and never really asked what the real problem was. Giving sites to investigate is great...If they work. This one did not if someone has a problem with a certain mod they have difficulty getting it moderated fairly. I realize you are all human and can only catch so many infractions as you would call them. However, is this conversation you are having in our personal forum good form for a moderator??????? I believe you are working for the companies that advertise here and we are the supporters of those companies since we buy their products. Supply and demand has a way of making the world go around. You are being bad advertisement with is type of behavior.
 
If the people who are watching out for me on this site dont care than I guess this is all just a waste of time. Now I look back on how many people I told about RC. No more I can assure you.
 
personally i'd like a bit less of the codescending attitude i have seen expressed from some of the people in charge when a legitimate complaint or question is being addressed
 
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