white carpets?

[pandarider007]

i seen the white carpet anemones on aquacon and was just wondering if that means theyre bleached because usually white is bleached.
thanks in advance:thumbsup:

oh and heres the link to it
http://www.aquacon.com/anemone.html

 

[LockeOak]

I wouldn't buy any white anemone that should be symbiotic, they are almost certainly bleached. If they are white, that means that there aren't any symbiotic algae or those algae have lost their chlorophyll and either way they aren't contributing to the anemone. They would require a lot of feeding and are either going to a) color up under good care or b) die.

 

[Doe5ia14]

From what I've read the only carpet that is naturally white is the Stichodactyla Mertensii.

 

[LockeOak]

On second look, calling those anemones "white" is a bit of a stretch, so they may be healthy. I'd want to see one in person, though.

 

[Nanook]

aquaCON

 

[Toddrtrex]

I would pass.

First, I wouldn't order any "carpet" without seeing a picture of the actual one that you are getting.

Second, that one they have listed APPEARS to be a Gig, and I have yet to see a healthy yellow one, so the one they have pictured is bleached.

 

[elegance coral]

aquaCON

:lol::lolspin::lol:

But seriously. You don't want to buy an anemone under those conditions.

 

[Reefvette]

hreyo

hreyo

+1 on the white mertens!!!!!!!!!

They have white feeder tentacles

 

[rssjsb]

Is it me, or is the word "carpet" abused to the point that it's lost all meaning? It's starting to be a real pet peeve of mine, and I don't even keep any of the species usually being described.

In any event wouldn't buy an anemone from a source that doesn't know or won't tell you what species they've got. Maybe at an LFS if you can inspect it first.

Pedantic rant/off

 

[MikeInToronto]

Is it me, or is the word "carpet" abused to the point that it's lost all meaning? It's starting to be a real pet peeve of mine, and I don't even keep any of the species usually being described.

I'm not sure I follow. There are a few species of carpets in the trade and they are all "carpets". Do you mean you have a problem with the term "carpet" as an all encompassing term for all of these species? I think a lot of people try to use more specific names like Haddoni, or Merten's. I've never much thought about it. I guess it's as irritating to you as the way "host" is misused to me.
Yeah, I mentioned it again.

 

[Reefvette]

Yes please explain

Yes please explain

Carpet anemone refers to 4 anemones 5 if you consider the maxi mini. yea i def spelled them wrong.

Stichodactyla Haddoni
Stichodactyla Mertenssi
Stichodactyla gigantea
Stichodactyla Helanthius

 

[rssjsb]

I suppose I was just cranky when I posted earlier. It's just that the generic term "carpet" is used to apply generically to animals that require very different care. People just starting out don't know the difference and may not appreciate that a haddoni and a gigantea require very different conditions and levels of care. That's not really their fault.

However, I think websites that sell these animals have a responsibility to at least identify them by name so someone without a lot of experience can at least research the requirements.

Ugh. Reading over this, I guess I am being pedantic. It's just like the "hosting" or angle v. angel. I think I need a vacation.

 

[elegance coral]

I understand what you are saying, Robin. People are always posting, wanting to know how to care for their "carpet". Many people don't even realize the term can cover many different species. Even some that know there are different species, assume they all have the same requirements because they're all "carpets". I've even had people get upset when I asked what species of "carpet" they had. It's definitely a confusing term for newbies.

My pet peeve is when people refer to ocellaris and percula as false perc and true perc. As if ocellaris is an impostor mimicking percula for some reason. It makes me want to start calling perculas, false ocellaris.:twitch:

 

[rssjsb]

My pet peeve is when people refer to ocellaris and percula as false perc and true perc. As if ocellaris is an impostor mimicking percula for some reason.

I'm sorry but that is just hilarious. Tricky little fish!

 

[pandarider007]

sorry:hmm1: when i said carpet i meant, is any white carpet anemone (being haddoni, gig, etc.) bleached.

 

[rssjsb]

And I should have made clear that this wasn't intended as a criticism of you, but of the site you linked to.

Businesses who sell these animals should identify them and not encourage the use of generic terms that confuse people or encourage them to buy anemones that they can't care for.

 

[pandarider007]

thats understandable, and i agree.

 

[MikeInToronto]

My pet peeve is when people refer to ocellaris and percula as false perc and true perc. As if ocellaris is an impostor mimicking percula for some reason. It makes me want to start calling perculas, false ocellaris.:twitch:

Those are established common name in literature, at least here in North America. In fact, other than internet forums I don't know of any other regularly accepted name for this fish aside from "common clown" (which is even more demeaning).
I never heard then called "ocellaris clowns" until I joined the BBs way back.

You can call it Nemo, false percula, common, whatever. Just don't call it "host".

 

[BonsaiNut]

sorry:hmm1: when i said carpet i meant, is any white carpet anemone (being haddoni, gig, etc.) bleached.

Zooxanthellae is brown. Therefore the best you would hope for is light brown. A truly white anemone has lost all of its zooxantellae.

On that site the "white" anemone is completely bleached, as is the "yellow" one. I would recommend checking feedback on the site before you order from them.