Why does reef crystals only have 320 Ca?

I will bet your swing arm is off.

How much are we betting? :D

I checked it with gram scales and table salt not long ago and it was dead accurate.

Three level cups of RC in a 5 gallon bucket mixes to about 1.028
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11390913#post11390913 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mike O'Brien
Billy, I think I can speak for all of us when I say that either your calcium kit is bad or you're refractometer is off by about 25 %. :)

Nope. Calcium checked with two different brand kits both matched. And refract is calibrated with 53 mS pinpoint solution verified by my lab grade floating hydrometer. They are both dead on.

acrylic, Tell you what I'll do. I have 16 gallons of ro/di ready. I have a bucket measured precisely at 5 gallons. I will fill the bucket, heat to 79 deg, and add exactly 3 cups of RC. I will aerate overnight and take a reading in the morning and post my results. I will take the reading with my refract and my lab grade floating hydrometer.

Mike, the answer to your last question is NO. :D
 
My previous bucket of RC and the one Im on now mix to 1..026 with calcium around 420. Try pouring half in another empty bucket, shaking it, then mixing back together and shaking. I've been told by people in real life as well as on here that since it's dry, stuff is going to settle and will cause you to have different reading on different mixes from the same bucket.
 
The results are in.

According to my testing, 3 cups of RC in 5 gallons of water sat overnight and aerated.

S.G refract 1.026
S.G. lab grade floating hydo 1.026

Calcium Saifert 425ppm
Calcium API 420ppm
Calcium LaMotte 430ppm

Hope this helps all. :)
 
Will a SG difference of .002 throw calcium off 60 ppm?

It still seems odd that some people are getting right around 360 and others right around 420.

If my swing arm is a little off and API measures a little low then I suppose it could be 420.
 
@ 1.026 my RC's CA measures 420 (API)

ive tested every mix ive made over the last year. all the same.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11397373#post11397373 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mike O'Brien
The overall decline in salts. How prices stay the same or less in the face of inflation across the board.

Wonder how many salt mixes are made in China...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11397428#post11397428 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by acrylic_300
Will a SG difference of .002 throw calcium off 60 ppm?

It still seems odd that some people are getting right around 360 and others right around 420.

If my swing arm is a little off and API measures a little low then I suppose it could be 420.

It's a simple equation.

Drop the 1.

026 divided by 420 is 16.15.

So .002 of will make a difference of about 32 ppm or so.

60 is a bit of a stretch but there is a little test noise in all hobby grade test kits.
 
I just tested, all Salifert tests

420 ca, 11.4 alk

Salinity 1.026 checked w/freshly calibrated pinpoint salinity meter.
 
my RC also tests quite low and I'm very dissapointed. I usually use TM Pro but I got RC in a pinch about a week ago and tested it.

SG- 1.026
CA- 360
ALK- 13 DKH
Mag- 1150

all tests were done with Salifert and I always heard that this was pretty good salt but now I'm not sure.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11396767#post11396767 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Billybeau1
The results are in.

According to my testing, 3 cups of RC in 5 gallons of water sat overnight and aerated.

S.G refract 1.026
S.G. lab grade floating hydo 1.026

Calcium Saifert 425ppm
Calcium API 420ppm
Calcium LaMotte 430ppm

Hope this helps all. :)

Yes! it really helps a lot to know that your bucket is OK :D
 
It seems like buckets vary. It would help if you posted when/where you got the salt. Is there any sort of date/batch code on the bucket?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11397676#post11397676 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ooja3k
@ 1.026 my RC's CA measures 420 (API)

ive tested every mix ive made over the last year. all the same.

My salt was purchased at the LFS in a bag not in a bucket... I dump out the bag then and place it into 3 ziploc bags...

Do you guys think this has anything to do with it?
 
Lower Ca and Alk levels could be the result of improper storage of salt. Salt mixes are hygroscopic. If you store it unsealed, salt mix absorbs water, which results in lower Ca & Alk levels from excessive CaC03 precipitation.
 
So maybe the issue could be the buckets not forming a proper seal, allowing moisture from the air in...

Just a thought...
 
Bear in mind that if all of the alkalinity in a salt mix (4 meq/L or 10 dKH) precipitated as calcium carbonate, the calcium would only drop by 80 ppm. Of course, that would leave no alkalinity, which was not observed. A drop of 1 meq/L (2.8 dKH) from normal is only a 20 ppm drop in calcium.

The caveat is that if you have not allowed the salt solution to totally settle, precipitated calcium carbonate could show up as alkalinity still, if the solids get into the alk test solution.
 
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