Why I advocate TTM first for all new fish

[TitanCi]

Using hypo and TTM in conjunction seems like an awful lot of extra work for a tried and true method such as TTM. just my 2 cents.

Maybe he meant hypo during TTM, as in just using less salt.

 

[TitanCi]

I have a question here: I am lucky to live in San Diego, and by the Scripps institute of oceanography.

They give free filtered sea water. From a hose, literally.

Could this water be used for TTM?

 

[gone fishin]

I looked at the link he provided. instead of just matching the bag or DT salinity one must lower the salinity over time to I assume true hypo conditions of 1.009. Then start the Tank transfers afterwards then the salinity must be increased back to the DT. Just seems like a lot of extra work for little to know gain.

 

[TitanCi]

I looked at the link he provided. instead of just matching the bag or DT salinity one must lower the salinity over time to I assume true hypo conditions of 1.009. Then start the Tank transfers afterwards then the salinity must be increased back to the DT. Just seems like a lot of extra work for little to know gain.

Didn't see the link, but put this way, you're right.

I am doing TTM at only 1.020 vs my normal 1.023. Saves a cup of salt.

 

[gone fishin]

Didn't see the link, but put this way, you're right.

I am doing TTM at only 1.020 vs my normal 1.023. Saves a cup of salt.

No worries. I have done them at 1.020, 1.018 it all depends on what the bag water is. I don't think I have ever got a fish at 1.026.

 

[ThRoewer]

If you read the article carefully you see that the slow lowering of salinity is only for the filter bacteria to survive. Fish I just drip in over an hour and so far none of them has shown the slightest sign of distress.

While boiling might be overkill I don't think the changes in water chemistry affect fish. As for the energy - I combine the hot water with the currently quite cold RO water which usually gets it pretty close to my tank temperature. So I only use ice if I need to lower it a bit more.

In general the water should even be fine if you just let it stand in a canister for two days as the free stage can only live for 24h without attaching to a host.

 

[TitanCi]

Can someone tell me if its ok to use filtered sea water for tank transfer? I have several jugs full of filtered sea water and I would think its a waste. Anyone, ie snorvich, foresee any issues with using it???

 

[ThRoewer]

It's what I use. But I let it stand in the canister for a few days at room temperature.

 

[TitanCi]

Why I advocate TTM first for all new fish

It's what I use. But I let it stand in the canister for a few days at room temperature.

Thanks, by filtered I really mean filtered from the sea. I live in San Diego and I am lucky (?) enough to be close to Scripps Institute. They give free water thats filtered. No diseases you think?

My DT is nothing but RO and IO RC though

 

[ThRoewer]

The store where I get my water from uses and sells ocean water that has been collected off the coast at Monterey. They filter and enhance it (alkalinity and calcium) and I can find nothing wrong with it.

 

[Dmorty217]

I don't see how cryptocaryon can survive being boiled. And there are plenty of other reasons to lower the salinity, not just to kill the parasite.
Here is a good article on Ich and TTM: A New Variation Of The Transfer Method

Why boil tank water and smell up your home when mixing new saltwater is much easier and less foul smelling?

 

[Spar]

Can someone tell me if its ok to use filtered sea water for tank transfer? I have several jugs full of filtered sea water and I would think its a waste. Anyone, ie snorvich, foresee any issues with using it???

Parasites live in the wild too obviously. And microscopic organisms will go straight through most if not all filters id presume. So you still run the risk if bringing in a protomont or theront from that water. Now if you timed it right you could play the cycle right. Let it sit for 24-48 hours first. Theronts would die. Protomonts would encyst/harden. Transfer that water to a new dry container and should be good to go.

 

[TitanCi]

The store where I get my water from uses and sells ocean water that has been collected off the coast at Monterey. They filter and enhance it (alkalinity and calcium) and I can find nothing wrong with it.

Parasites live in the wild too obviously. And microscopic organisms will go straight through most if not all filters id presume. So you still run the risk if bringing in a protomont or theront from that water. Now if you timed it right you could play the cycle right. Let it sit for 24-48 hours first. Theronts would die. Protomonts would encyst/harden. Transfer that water to a new dry container and should be good to go.

Thanks guys! The water has been in there since last week. I usually don't use it anymore but figure i was in the area and maybe give it a try.



Fish are looking better and about to go into QT tonight.

 

[Spar]

The water has been in there since last week.

I'd have to defer to the NSW experts on the chances of a parasite hitching in on NSW purchases; however, just to further my point about the timing... if you do wait more than 3 days from purchase, then your only concern after that is more theront's hatching. So [for absolute surety] you would want to transfer that water to a new container, wait 1 day, and all life cycle stages would be dead.

 

[jbvdhp]

I'd have to defer to the NSW experts on the chances of a parasite hitching in on NSW purchases; however, just to further my point about the timing... if you do wait more than 3 days from purchase, then your only concern after that is more theront's hatching. So [for absolute surety] you would want to transfer that water to a new container, wait 1 day, and all life cycle stages would be dead.

Thanks Spar, luckily for me, it was free.

What if i microwaved the water or boiled it? Hmm...

 

[TitanCi]

Why I advocate TTM first for all new fish

Well, my three tangs and Midas survived 12 days in a 18 gallon pink Sterilite bin! No visible ich, no flashing...

PT has some skin lesions caudally; thought it was flukes, may be, but they're lesions for sure.

Point is, TTM works for ich, no doubt. For those facing this problem, TTM is way to go.