why so much?
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I hate zoas! They look cool in pics until you recieve them ha,ha,ha I stick to palys and grandis. But I'll say tubbs are still the best zoa for me.
coral acquisition
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grandis?
Come on Bebo77, play nice. I agree that the prices are out of hand, but I also don't want to see you sanctioned.
I would however like to hear about that 300 gallon tank you have. Can you elaborate on it for us?
Thanks.
Mucho Reef
I would however like to hear about that 300 gallon tank you have. Can you elaborate on it for us?
Thanks.
Mucho Reef
coral acquisition
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i know some zoa's cost a lot of money but arent lps and sps the same?
som efish too i've heard. so then i guess this is just an expensive hobby. hehehe
som efish too i've heard. so then i guess this is just an expensive hobby. hehehe
InADream
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This is a very expensive hobby, but it all depends on what you like... If you like the more rare fish then you are going to have to pay to get them...
The good thing about liking the more expensive zoos, and SPS are that you can eventually frag them out and get some of your money back... With Zoos it just depends on what you like, there are some beautiful zoos that are cheap as can be... On the other hand there are some great looking zoos that are 75 bucks a polyp...
Dream
The good thing about liking the more expensive zoos, and SPS are that you can eventually frag them out and get some of your money back... With Zoos it just depends on what you like, there are some beautiful zoos that are cheap as can be... On the other hand there are some great looking zoos that are 75 bucks a polyp...
Dream
coral acquisition
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that's true i guess to each his/her own. 
i like these spidermans.
i like these spidermans.
ZOAKEEPER
Zoa Trainer
ZOA PRICES
ZOA PRICES
I remember years ago (years) I lived in So. Cal. when I first became involved in saltwater. My friend and I would make roadtrips all around the valley (san fernando) and down to the LA Basin. Once in awhile farther south towards pedro and diego. There were some fantastic saltwater stores in So. Cal. Anyway, Sorry, You could'nt give away zoas. Especially anything green. Everybody wanted color. color. color. color. If it was green wether it be dark or bright or neon or whatever keep it. Now I see these new zoas; "nuclear greens" please. You truelly dont think these things just grew? You could'nt give stuff like that away. I know theres some old timers still left out there. Remember the day? Let somebody buy a couple or split the price and they'll be growing out so you can give some away to some newbies. And let the hobbiest have fair prices. Also, if anybody ever uses the word "rare" they should be banned from R/C. Also, buy all the 10.00 frags and those 100.00 frags will come down in price, trust me. Because everything just keeps on growing..........
ZOA PRICES
I remember years ago (years) I lived in So. Cal. when I first became involved in saltwater. My friend and I would make roadtrips all around the valley (san fernando) and down to the LA Basin. Once in awhile farther south towards pedro and diego. There were some fantastic saltwater stores in So. Cal. Anyway, Sorry, You could'nt give away zoas. Especially anything green. Everybody wanted color. color. color. color. If it was green wether it be dark or bright or neon or whatever keep it. Now I see these new zoas; "nuclear greens" please. You truelly dont think these things just grew? You could'nt give stuff like that away. I know theres some old timers still left out there. Remember the day? Let somebody buy a couple or split the price and they'll be growing out so you can give some away to some newbies. And let the hobbiest have fair prices. Also, if anybody ever uses the word "rare" they should be banned from R/C. Also, buy all the 10.00 frags and those 100.00 frags will come down in price, trust me. Because everything just keeps on growing..........
coral acquisition
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LMAO - 4 years later and it's still that high.
A. Grandis
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Did anybody called me?
LOL!!
By the way... because there will be always someone to pay for it.
Grandis.
coral acquisition
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True. lol
You can dump on vendor prices in this hobby but in todays digital age to me that all falls back on the consumer. A vendor can ask any price he wants for something, its up to the consumer to buy or buy elsewhere or not buy at all.
I see so many places (vendors and ebay) marketting thier "super-ultra-LE-deepwater-japanese" zoa frags lit up with enough UV to make them almost have radiation poisoning then photochopped on top and listed for $ XXXX a polyp, that is makes me sick. Take a normal photo and they look alot like regular old dragon eyes,..... odd isnt it? People however let the wow factor & impulse buy get ahold on them rather than use the google that they probably have a phone short cut for to find them for pennies on the listed price. If your dog craps in your yard and someone walks up and offers $50 for it would you sell it? If your dog craps in the yard and someone offers to take it for free would you do it? Yes I know rather weird example but kinda how a vendors point of view goes.
I see so many places (vendors and ebay) marketting thier "super-ultra-LE-deepwater-japanese" zoa frags lit up with enough UV to make them almost have radiation poisoning then photochopped on top and listed for $ XXXX a polyp, that is makes me sick. Take a normal photo and they look alot like regular old dragon eyes,..... odd isnt it? People however let the wow factor & impulse buy get ahold on them rather than use the google that they probably have a phone short cut for to find them for pennies on the listed price. If your dog craps in your yard and someone walks up and offers $50 for it would you sell it? If your dog craps in the yard and someone offers to take it for free would you do it? Yes I know rather weird example but kinda how a vendors point of view goes.
NanoReefWanabe
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i think bebo77 summed it up best for sure....and i completely agree with zoakeeper in regards to corals being "rare" in the hobby there are some that are protected and should not be in anyones tank, and people selling wild specimens of such corals are Dbags...fish are another story, and depending on how they are collected, some are indeed rare to the hobby (for me, certainly not 3500$ gem tang rare though) other then that there are thousands of zoas out there, some grow slow, some grow quick, none are rare, and none have goofy names in the wild that should demand any sort of price....
i only buy zoas from people who list them as Zoa A from bali, zoa B from indo, zoa c from japan, etc...i could care less about the stupid names demanding ridiculous prices...sure zoa c might be more expensive as it costs more to ship/export from japan then it does from indonesia, and perhaps the colour is a little better, yeah i would pay more to cover shipping and the fact the zoa is fire engine orange/red...but because someone tags it "rare japanese firebomb" i should pay 50 bucks per polyp...i dont think so...the guy in japan sold it to him as orange zoanthid from japan for 50 cents a polyp....i know i certainly have a lot more respect for someone selling me something for what it is and not what they think it should be...
i now there isnt a single refernce in any of my saltwater books to tubs blues or purple hornets or darth mauls, they are called zoanthids and they are exported from different regions/oceans of the world...
what rally makes me laugh is people who buy frags and colonies from stores or other people, and the first thing they do is ask what its name is...DUH it is a zoanthid...then you get the guys buying wild shipments saying they bought "purple hornets" and then turn around massacre the colony and sell it for 50 bucks a polyp, now everyone thinks they have bought this prized coral from someone who has dealt with the person who coined the name in the first place, which is obviously ridiculous since the colony is wild and likely not even from the same region the "original" ones came from...unless people are sending out COA (certificates of authenticity) with their so called rare and prized corals directly from the namee, there is absolutely no point naming the corals...at least there is no point in buying them for ridiculous prices without proof....and as bebo has said there are people out there...if your one of them i feel badly you have been duped, but the name game is ridiculous...call it for what it is and from where it is and that should be more then enough..
i only buy zoas from people who list them as Zoa A from bali, zoa B from indo, zoa c from japan, etc...i could care less about the stupid names demanding ridiculous prices...sure zoa c might be more expensive as it costs more to ship/export from japan then it does from indonesia, and perhaps the colour is a little better, yeah i would pay more to cover shipping and the fact the zoa is fire engine orange/red...but because someone tags it "rare japanese firebomb" i should pay 50 bucks per polyp...i dont think so...the guy in japan sold it to him as orange zoanthid from japan for 50 cents a polyp....i know i certainly have a lot more respect for someone selling me something for what it is and not what they think it should be...
i now there isnt a single refernce in any of my saltwater books to tubs blues or purple hornets or darth mauls, they are called zoanthids and they are exported from different regions/oceans of the world...
what rally makes me laugh is people who buy frags and colonies from stores or other people, and the first thing they do is ask what its name is...DUH it is a zoanthid...then you get the guys buying wild shipments saying they bought "purple hornets" and then turn around massacre the colony and sell it for 50 bucks a polyp, now everyone thinks they have bought this prized coral from someone who has dealt with the person who coined the name in the first place, which is obviously ridiculous since the colony is wild and likely not even from the same region the "original" ones came from...unless people are sending out COA (certificates of authenticity) with their so called rare and prized corals directly from the namee, there is absolutely no point naming the corals...at least there is no point in buying them for ridiculous prices without proof....and as bebo has said there are people out there...if your one of them i feel badly you have been duped, but the name game is ridiculous...call it for what it is and from where it is and that should be more then enough..
I know locally we have driven down the prices of corals especially the fancy named ones like tubbs blue and fairy dust pally an so on. The reason for this is because of all the fragging we do here. We frag them and sell them for super cheap!
Personally I don't frag stuff in my tank unless there is a reason to like crowd control. When I do frag them I sell $10 and $20 good sized frags so everyone has a chance to enjoy the beauties. I only buy the coral if I have to have it. I NEVER buy it just because of its rarity or its name. I might try and find out what the common name for it is but it's just easier to tell some one "I got a colony of Oxide zoas" instead of telling them "I got these sweet zoas that have alternating orange and white rings with a orange skirt".
Personally I don't frag stuff in my tank unless there is a reason to like crowd control. When I do frag them I sell $10 and $20 good sized frags so everyone has a chance to enjoy the beauties. I only buy the coral if I have to have it. I NEVER buy it just because of its rarity or its name. I might try and find out what the common name for it is but it's just easier to tell some one "I got a colony of Oxide zoas" instead of telling them "I got these sweet zoas that have alternating orange and white rings with a orange skirt".
