Worm's 180 build

100DM4. It was on special. Another RCer posted a link to it in the thread about water changes in this forum. I think it was about using an Apex for WCs.

OK Thanks.

I ordered the 170DM5

170DM5:

Adjustable Output (GPD): 8.5 - 170.0
RPM: 44
Motor HP: 1/30
6' power cord attached
Dimensions are 12.7" x 6" x 5.3"
The Stenner 170DM5 Pump uses a #5 Tube

100DM4:
Adjustable Output (GPD): 3.5 - 70.0
RPM: 26
Motor HP: 1/30
6' power cord attached
Dimensions are 12.7" x 6" x 5.3"
The Stenner 100DM4 Pump uses a #4 Tube

Same price on both.

I got the 1/4" model.
 
I came across this today thought you might be interested in it.

International Aquatic Plants Layout Contest

http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2014/01/the-incredible-underwater-art-of-aquascaping/

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OK Thanks.

I ordered the 170DM5

170DM5:

Adjustable Output (GPD): 8.5 - 170.0
RPM: 44
Motor HP: 1/30
6' power cord attached
Dimensions are 12.7" x 6" x 5.3"
The Stenner 170DM5 Pump uses a #5 Tube

100DM4:
Adjustable Output (GPD): 3.5 - 70.0
RPM: 26
Motor HP: 1/30
6' power cord attached
Dimensions are 12.7" x 6" x 5.3"
The Stenner 100DM4 Pump uses a #4 Tube

Same price on both.

I got the 1/4" model.

I got mine on special. $230 bucks. Looks like the only difference between them are the heads. Same HP and size. Good to know, but doubt I'd ever need it to do more than it is. It's not a pump for changing a lot of water. Even at 170gpd it won't change that much because it's simultaneous drain/fill. Not doing any math, but that would probably be a net of less than half that amount over 24hrs.

Good solid pumps though. Not toys. Good support too. I called them to see if it could be mounted horizontally vs vertically ( wasn't clear in the manual ) and if the orientation the heads could be manipulated. Had no trouble reaching technical support. Happy with the purchase and like the small daily water changes.
 
Well then they changed their documentation then, because it says on the website horzional and vertical mounting is ok.

The only reason I went with the 170DM5 is the updated gpd, not for speed of a manual water change but the smaller gpd setting. While I can use it in manual mode to do a slow/quicker change. The short time of 8.5 GPD on the minimum side makes it a tad quicker on a slow running motor, hopefuly quieter too.

I got the larger tubes (m5 size compared to m4), not that it will make a difference because I ordered the 1/4" model.
 
Daily water changes is a smart way to go. Since you will have the 120 plumbed with the 180 via the sump you can water on both tanks with little effort on your part.
 
Daily water changes is a smart way to go. Since you will have the 120 plumbed with the 180 via the sump you can water on both tanks with little effort on your part.

This will be about 350 in total water volume. So 10% a week would be 35 gallons. That is 5 gallons a day. or .2 gal an hour.
SO depending on the flow rate of the pump (I think I have purchased a 8gpd-170gpd) I can set it up to put in new water and trash the old pretty quick.

As long as I was not QT the entire tank for ick or something I could put the waste water in my QT and then let that go into the waste to help circulate that water too.


Yea you hit the nail on the head with this one. Definitely a smart move on your part.

Thanks. It is an easy setup and will deff change overall stability and levels. If you think about it 5 gal a day, automatically is so much better and easier than 35 gal once a week (what is that a full brute container filled to the brim?)

I will have certain safeguards like water low settings on tank and storage container. Return pump off then off on water change. Water change off when making NSW. (Breakout box to a switch that I can set on so system knows not to move water) There will be more also.

I am kinda happy excited on this. It will give me a chance to do other maintenance items with the added time.
 
Had an issue last night.

I put my finger in the sump and felt the tingling of voltage being bled into the tank.

Took out my voltmeter and had 90 VAC from one of my NEW COBOLT 200w heaters. This heater is less than a week old. Of course I trouble shot it, by turning on and off the circuit (apex outlet) and testing.

Replaced it and voltage disappeared.

Now I had seen some of my other fish doing a shake like the clowns do for dominance. I wonder how long this has been happening.

How often do you test for stray voltage?
 
Do you have a titanium grounding probe anywhere on your system? You only need one (to avoid a ground loop) but I would seriously recommend adding one to your sump if you haven't already.

Dave.M
 
Had an issue last night.

I put my finger in the sump and felt the tingling of voltage being bled into the tank.

Took out my voltmeter and had 90 VAC from one of my NEW COBOLT 200w heaters. This heater is less than a week old. Of course I trouble shot it, by turning on and off the circuit (apex outlet) and testing.

Replaced it and voltage disappeared.

Now I had seen some of my other fish doing a shake like the clowns do for dominance. I wonder how long this has been happening.

How often do you test for stray voltage?

That's crazy. How come you didn't get shocked? It wasn't that high in voltage?
 
I do not have a grounding rod. I am going to put one in this upcoming week.

Yes Wayne the voltage was low. Still AC just low enough to provide a tingle.

Al you have to do it put your colt meter on AC and put one lead on a ground (plug) and the other just touching the water. Then cycle through all of your powered items.
 
It might not have been a fully exposed short circuit. There can be "induced" voltage in the system's water from an electrical appliance that is not sufficiently shielded as well as grounded. Lights and pumps often fall into this category. Some have postulated that this induced voltage may be a source of head and lateral line deterioration in fish (i.e. hole-in-the-head disease).

Glad to hear that you just got a tingle and didn't end up on your butt on the other side of the room - or worse.

Dave.M
 
Yeah. I know. Definitely going to keep an eye on it and other tanks that I come around. Nothing worse than an electric fish... not like an electric eel.
 
Thanks for posting the auto water change set up, I ordered the Stenner pump tonight, looks like a solid water change system for sure, simple and easy.

I've had a few tingles from stray voltage over the years, pumps or heaters have always been the cause.
 
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