Worm's 265g addition

[worm5406]

For those that are/have followed my 180 thread know that I have added on a bit over the years. Going from a 120, moving to a 180, bringing the 120 back on line pumped in WITH the 180 sump. I decided to make this new thread as the 120+180 will NOT be connected to the new 265. By the end of this there will be 565g of DT and 225g of possible (if full) sump/filtration. I will still keep up the 120/180 thread. See bottom for links to other threads/webcam.

Now to start:

I have been presented, by a friend, the opportunity to get a 265 tank. This will be basically a move for the 265 as it is running as I type this. Inhabitants will move with it. The final location of the 265 will be to the right of the 180. For those that look at the web cam just zoom out and move right. There is a 55g QT there now.


Tank:

Marineland 265 black trim. 84Lx24Dx30T


Hardware:

Apex with 5x energy8 bars. Numerous probes and breakout box.
6x radions either 3gen or pro (cant remember)
4x MP40's
2x 75g sumps (tied together by 2x cross-connects)
2x skimmers
2x dc-10,000 return pumps
Three chamber media reactor
ATS
Assorted heaters, PH, dosing pump, ATO, heaters.


Current setup:

Currently it is setup with 2x HOB overflow. 2x over the top returns. 2x sumps below with a skimmer in each.


Modify:

Internal overflow box drilled/piped to external BeanAnimal.
Drill two additional holes for return flow.


Inhabitants in 265:

I plan on moving my Ritteri to the new tank and allow him to find his nitch and enjoy life to the fullest. He is hosting 4x OC's all from the same brood.


Overcome before going live:

Move it
Drill it
Overflow it
Move to final spot
Install lights in fish room
Drywall ceiling
Finish muddying existing wall.
Paint
Modify/correct sink to move RODI and allow for drain (rodi and old water)


Dream:

Setup a refugium between both setups to allow for cross flow of nutrients/dosing and water stability and of course nutrient export.


Links:

Current 180+120 setup: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2261473

OLD 120 setup: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2187643

WebCam http://worm5406.from-md.com:83

 

[phaze5]

watching this one....

 

[worm5406]

ca1ore: Now let me think about that box design. Besides being able to take it off for what ever reason, I would need a double o-ring to seal it, or is that a triple?

I took this approach with a smaller tank a few years ago, and used two gaskets - one under the flange inside the skimmer box, and one between the skimmer box and the back wall of the tank.

What about between outside box and tank wall?

 

[worm5406]

OK here is a rough draw of the rock formations.

Red is internal pvc support to keep from falling over.

 

[bpcardona]

So are we talking about a refugium that is fed by both tanks setup (120/180 and 265)? This should get real interesting. I like the pvc as supports. I used acyrlic rods, and sometime worry about them breaking.

 

[Breadman03]

That camera is amazing!

 

[ca1ore]

What about between outside box and tank wall?

If you do a 4 sided glass scupper box as I had suggested, and edge glue it to the back of the tank, then a third gasket is unnecessary. In the event you were to use a 5 sided glass box and employ the bulkheads to hold it to the tank then, yes, a third gasket would be required between the external box and the tank. Advantage of this approach is that the box would be removable, but I think potential additional leak points makes it less desirable. Most of the external BA boxes I have seen (and done) are all edge glued with silicone. If you check out the coasttocoast aquarium site, they have a bunch of pictures of these kinds of external boxes.

 

[Oldude]

Good luck with your project.

 

[worm5406]

Oldude: Thanks

Breadman03: Yeah it has been a good investment. I can see all that is happening when on vacation, for the tank sitter.

ca1ore: That is what I figured. 4 sided on the BA external box. What about the overflow? 4 or 5 sided? I was thinking 4 sided on both boxes. I will go picture searching. I have already done some video searching.

bpcardona: Yeah I was thinking of a longer dwell time refugium, Make it a two section tank, so that the water stays on the plants. In the event of pump off, I would just stop the pumps.

I could use the sump water level sensors to make a if then statement. Basically if sump A water level low (or high) then feed a / feed b off. Then if sump b low (or high) then the same. Either way an out of whack water level would not continue to feed water from both to either drain it down or over flow it. This would basically be a oops one of the lines is clogged type failsafe.

But that is a dream for later on. I have to work on the wording and testing of it.

 

[Floyd R Turbo]

Here's my post from your 180 thread

If you have a 5-sided internal and 5-sided external box, you put the gasket seals on either side of the glass only. So box-gasket-tank wall-gasket-box. You only care about water leaking out of the setup at the joint of the tank and outside box, and you want to seal the joint between the inside box and tank wall so that water doesn't slowly bypass the overflow box during an outage (draining your tank down). The latter is probably less likely to occur, but it's a worst-case planning thing.

 

[muttley000]

Cool, hope this thread is full of cool videos also!

 

[iced98lx]

oh man another thread to subscribe to.

 

[worm5406]

Here's my post from your 180 thread

If you have a 5-sided internal and 5-sided external box, you put the gasket seals on either side of the glass only. So box-gasket-tank wall-gasket-box. You only care about water leaking out of the setup at the joint of the tank and outside box, and you want to seal the joint between the inside box and tank wall so that water doesn't slowly bypass the overflow box during an outage (draining your tank down). The latter is probably less likely to occur, but it's a worst-case planning thing.

I am still worried that an over-tighten will crack one.. But I know the ring will provide equal pressure around the seals. I guess the Bulkhead will have enough length to take care of it.

Cool, hope this thread is full of cool videos also!

Ohh yeah... It really will!

oh man another thread to subscribe to.

Yeah.. and? HAHAHA. You know you want to watch and see. I hope i get as much input and ideas/suggestions as the last large thread I did.

 

[biecacka]

Worm congrats on the score man. That sounds like a great tank!! I can't wait to have another source of awesome videos for my pleasure. Anemone only tank maybe?? Or what other plans do you have for it

Corey

 

[iced98lx]

LOL You know we're all here to screw your build up instead of ours!!!

 

[ca1ore]

LOL You know we're all here to screw your build up instead of ours!!!

Hah, yes, exactly. Offer questionable advice .... hope somebody implements said advice ..... determine outcome .....adopt approach yourself if positive ..... repeat!

 

[bpcardona]

hah, yes, exactly. Offer questionable advice .... Hope somebody implements said advice ..... Determine outcome .....adopt approach yourself if positive ..... Repeat!

+1

 

[worm5406]

Worm congrats on the score man. That sounds like a great tank!! I can't wait to have another source of awesome videos for my pleasure. Anemone only tank maybe?? Or what other plans do you have for it?

Anemone tank is #1 idea for it. A gig (or two)

LOL You know we're all here to screw your build up instead of ours!!!

Hah, yes, exactly. Offer questionable advice .... hope somebody implements said advice ..... determine outcome .....adopt approach yourself if positive ..... repeat!

+1

You three hold your tongues or I will make videos with lots of panning and zooming to make you motion sick.

 

[worm5406]

Hi Worm5406, I see you are in Maryland. I live in Clinton Maryland.

Hey packman how are you?

 

[worm5406]

So basically I need to make a "ghost overflow" type setup for my overflow ??

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