WTB Hawkins Echinata

ahh that sucks! It seems that the Hawkins is kinda like the Oregon Tort.. people either have great success with it.. or... not so much.
 
Hey Kreeger, what is a sign of death? I still have blue in mine so not sure if its dead or not. We both got them from Jeff321 right?
 
Mine has been doing very well... even after my Red Planet stung the heck out of it at one point.

I know a guy who has a small colony of it, but you would have to give it a few months in your system before it would color up.

You can see the top of it in the bottom of the picture below.

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Yep, got it from Jeff. I would say that through my years of sps keeping, Acropora Echinata is the most fragile coral I've come across.

The skin fluffs off. Did your frag come bagged with another coral in it? He said he's never had issues doing that but I no there's issues when you put sps together. You can look at sps the wrong way and they bleach on you.

Heads up to everyone fragging, Corals need there own containers. They just can't deal with other corals slime, let alone there own in such small containers that everyone seems to be using these days.
Just not worth the risk.

I received 2 corals a few days ago from Joe, both in the same container, the more delicate "deep water" one is ghost white now.

Corals might be ok bagged together for a half hour or so, but hours not a chance.
 
No Kreeger, I only bought one thing from him so I no double bagging here. So I am assuming mine is still alive, the color is still there. I double bag my zoos when I sell multiples to people. I will think twice now though.
 
zoo's are tuffer then sps though. THere so fragile and once they start to rtn it's a losing battle with a frag. a colony you can save pieces, frag is just the size you'd save.
 
My frag came bagged with a zoo frag, the coral probably rolled over the zoos a have dozen times and thats all folks.
Jeff's a stand up guy though. We've trade back in the days and He's on top of this already. It's good that people in the hobby tht stnad behind there frags.
 
Thanks for the positive comment Erik!
I thought that they would be ok in the same container, but I will never do that again.
I just got some frag bags in the mail yesterday and I am going to bag one at a time from now on.
As soon as I can frag the Hawkins again I have one for you Erik.
Vietcu, the Hawkins can loose some color for a while when fragged. Even when I frag it and leave it in the same tank (not the frag tank) they loose their color. I have a small frag that I put in my frag tank because I thought it was dying and didn't want it in my main tank, it looked very light for a few days and now the color is returning. It is a VERY hard coral to frag, it just doesn't tolerate fragging well.
 
Theres a handful of corals that look like echinata, but really theres only 2 or 3 that are in the trade that really are echinata. Hawkins is one, the fire and ice is another. Researching them with Chuck back in the day when he got Greg to jump through hoops to get him some wild echinatas was a trip. nothing like slowly dripping saltwater into a bowl to get a match on salinity only to watch the skin fluff off a 7-800 dollar coral. Not once, not twice but 3 times.
 
Hey Erik, I thought I remember reading somewhere in the SPS forum that it was decided that the ORA "Hawkin's" wasn't a true Echinata? I think it was somewhere in the SPS forum. I'll see if I can dig it up.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14460644#post14460644 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tswifty
Hey Erik, I thought I remember reading somewhere in the SPS forum that it was decided that the ORA "Hawkin's" wasn't a true Echinata? I think it was somewhere in the SPS forum. I'll see if I can dig it up.

I remember that thread.. I think that Peter (SDguy) started it. Actually it was started about Kohens Echinata.... then the Hawkins came up.
 
Yeah it was fairly recent... I tried to find it, but ended up getting all mixed up between Echinata's, Lokani's, and Hoek's... and couldn't remember which one the thread was about. :lol:
 
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