According to the site, and Chad, the owner - this particular leather is extinct in the wild. A bit pricey, but very beautiful. On a side note, I just ordered a large shipment of Ricordias and other niceties from Chad - great prices and the pieces are simply brilliant. He is a huge supporter of aquaculturing and aquarist clubs, so check out his stuff (zomania.com and gatewayaquatics.com). I will post some pics soon! He is also willing to offer nice discounts for any group buys.