Reeftanks6
Active member
I dont think this will be a big problem because LFS will get them and breed them like already said. Then we will have many of them. So i dont think this will be a big problem but it can become one.
yellow tangs get them while you can
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This new law that Hawaii is about to pass will affect other species as well.
Here is link:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2008/Bills/SB3225_.pdf
Doug
Here is link:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2008/Bills/SB3225_.pdf
Doug
sslak
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I think this is the best thing that can happen for our wild fish. I think that it's great to see. If it means the fish are more expensive, then great! That means people will think twice about throwing 3 of them in a 50 gallon tank and letting them die.
I also think that this will help encourage more reasearch and further attempts at captive breeding. If we can house whales captively, I'm sure we can get yellow tangs a big enough tank to breed.
The fish have to be expensive/popular enough to justify the cost of the research. It's all about profitability.
I also think that this will help encourage more reasearch and further attempts at captive breeding. If we can house whales captively, I'm sure we can get yellow tangs a big enough tank to breed.
The fish have to be expensive/popular enough to justify the cost of the research. It's all about profitability.
Radioheadx14
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I am a supporter. I'm fine with rescriction laws the protect the environment and ecosystems. If it cause the prices to raise, thats fine. Being a student in college this sucks, but at the same time it will cause most people to become more responsible since they are looking at larger investments.
techreef
Premium Member
Have humans successfully bred any whales in captivity? I'm guessing orcas, belugas possibly, but don't know.
I wonder if a sort of "endless pool" breeding tank setup would help replicate the large open distances that yellow tangs experience in the wild? I think just about anything is possible once the incentives are set up to prompt human greed, er, I mean ingenuity.
I wonder if a sort of "endless pool" breeding tank setup would help replicate the large open distances that yellow tangs experience in the wild? I think just about anything is possible once the incentives are set up to prompt human greed, er, I mean ingenuity.
thor32766
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wow will be interesting to see. I understand that people make a living from collecting, but like here in the keys collectings along with pollution has decimated a lot of fish populations. Just in the 5 yrs of going back and forth down there the angel population has taken a huge hit.
Breeding whales has been done in captivity. They even mated a whale with a dolphin at a facility just a few miles from here (and yes, the male was the whale, poor dolphin). You can't really compare breeding yellow tangs and whales though. Whales are mammals having live born calfs. Yellow tangs have microscopic offspring.
I Think the point that everyone is missing here is that 99% of the yellow tangs that go on the market are caught on the Big Island of Hawaii. this legislation is going to affect the island of Oahu most. I am all for conservation but this bill is barking up the wrong tree for the wrong reasons. If the bill wanted to conserve a reef it would ban all fishing not just aquarium fishing.
The fish that get taken off the reef daily for the aquarium trade is just a drop in the bucket compared to the fish that get taken for food. when they net for food fish they also catch yellow tangs, convict tangs, Naso tangs etc.. So if the law passes then aquarium fishermen can't catch fish there but everyone else can, including commercial fishermen that still take tangs.
I Think the point that everyone is missing here is that 99% of the yellow tangs that go on the market are caught on the Big Island of Hawaii. this legislation is going to affect the island of Oahu most. I am all for conservation but this bill is barking up the wrong tree for the wrong reasons. If the bill wanted to conserve a reef it would ban all fishing not just aquarium fishing.
The fish that get taken off the reef daily for the aquarium trade is just a drop in the bucket compared to the fish that get taken for food. when they net for food fish they also catch yellow tangs, convict tangs, Naso tangs etc.. So if the law passes then aquarium fishermen can't catch fish there but everyone else can, including commercial fishermen that still take tangs.
thor32766
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pactrop I totally agree with what your saying. Fishing boats have nets that can pull everything out of the water that is only a few inches long. they actually destroy whole eco systems with those things. The biggest thing that needs to be done is with UN sancutions. In internation waters they can literally do what they want. We as a whole (everyone on the planet) need to come together. Believe it or not, without the ocean being healthy everything living thing on this planet will end up being affected by it. Like Mufussa told Simba its as simple as the circle of life.
kar93
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I actually wrote a letter, i cant remmeber who it was too i got the adress of the internet it was something to do with the G8 as far as im aware but i got a letter back saying sorry but your letter could not be responded to due to the large amount of mail we receive each week. sorry but if you wish to write again we have no problem with this.
spockthepuffer
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My LFS has them on sale this week, they got a bunch of them in the size of quarters. My bf won't let me get one for our tank though.
Hopefully one day we will figure out how to breed the lovely yellow tang
Hopefully one day we will figure out how to breed the lovely yellow tang
kar93
Active member
Ive read something a few mins ago but then the PC crashed and i cant find the webpage again. It was on google somewhere. It said spawnings of the yellow tang have been succesful but the larvae have never been raised. I cant remeber where this was. Ill definitely try find that site.
elegance coral
They call me EC
Thanks for this post. I am always sceptical of legislation aimed at restricting the activities of the aquarium trade. We are an easy target. Laws are often passed restricting our activities only to make politicians look like they care about the environment. On the surface these laws look like a good idea that most of us can stand behind. All to often these laws ignore the real problem, though, and do very little to help save the reefs. I remember an article in FAMA many years ago where the collection and exportation of live coral had been outlawed in one of the small countries of the South Pacific. The article showed pictures of huge SPS corals laying on the beach. The natives were collecting these live corals and placing them here to dry out so they could sell them as ornaments. There were no laws against the exportation of dead coral, so no one was breaking the law. Clearly these people were collecting much more coral than the aquarium trade had been collecting but they were ignored.
I don't know if the Yellow tang population around the Hawaiian Islands is in trouble or not. I can only hope that if it is, they will investigate the problem. Find out where the problem is and what's causing it. Even if it is us. Then pass laws to fix the problem, and not pass laws just to further their political carriers.
