Zeovit - System
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rovster
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Not a zeo user but been researching a lot lately. Along the lines with the above questions, what kind of colors CAN be expected with the basic 4? As I understand it, seems you start with the basic 4 to get nutrient levels in check. THEN, you start with the additives to enhance colors. Am I understanding this all? Thanks. Great thread!
mos90
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i just started a few weeks ago on my 300 after vinegar dosing went sour.
im using a vertex 3l reactor with 2l of zeo vit to start. 3 hours on 3 hours off.
10 drops zeobak daily
2ml zeostart 3 daily
alexander on the zeo forum mentioned not to use any zeo food until i achieve unls. right now phos is .04 and nitrate around 2ppm.
also i do have some cyano so i am dosing 20ml coral snow daily.
in 4 weeks i will up the zeovit to 3liters and 2 weeks after that run the reactor at 100% flow 24/7
im using a vertex 3l reactor with 2l of zeo vit to start. 3 hours on 3 hours off.
10 drops zeobak daily
2ml zeostart 3 daily
alexander on the zeo forum mentioned not to use any zeo food until i achieve unls. right now phos is .04 and nitrate around 2ppm.
also i do have some cyano so i am dosing 20ml coral snow daily.
in 4 weeks i will up the zeovit to 3liters and 2 weeks after that run the reactor at 100% flow 24/7
Hi all, I just started using the basic on my 300 gallon. I have question as the vertex 3L older reactor. I am having a hell of a time shaking the stones. I bought the reactor use. It looks like the person messed around with it. I need to though who have this reactor, concerning the inner section where you put the stones, is the tube attached as in glue to the bottom plate with the holes or is it suppose to come all apart like the one I have. My issue is that after a couple of shakes the bottom plate and tube separate and the reactor jams up. I am thinking about crazy gluing them together.
Allmost
New member
yea I know what you mean, mine came off too, and I have never bothered putting it back on ... the inner tube.
now I just use without ... just remove the inner tube, and let it be. pumping it might be harder, but if you play with it a bit, it can be done.
remove all the smaller stones, and place them in a filter bag and put the filter bag on top of the other larger stones, those seem to get stuck and make pumping it harder.
if u find a better solution, let us know I sure can use it
zeo attempt
zeo attempt
So Ive been using basic 4 for 3 weeks and it seems things are worse and not better. Since stopping gfo phosphates are going up from .46 to .57 with a ultra low phosphte photometer. Water is murky. Green algea has increased colors ok but not spectacular. Polyp extension ok. I have a 100 gal net 75-80 gal tank using 1 liter zeoliths in a reactor, 3 drops of zeobak and zeostart, 0.8 ml zeofood. Things seem to worsen to the point Im about to bail on this. Ive started back gfo and have been doing water changes weekly about 35 gal each time. Ive cut feeding way back. I know its going to take time for things to improve but my impression was that the zeoliths were so powerful they would help with the phosphate its not been my experience so far. So where do I go from here?
zeo attempt
So Ive been using basic 4 for 3 weeks and it seems things are worse and not better. Since stopping gfo phosphates are going up from .46 to .57 with a ultra low phosphte photometer. Water is murky. Green algea has increased colors ok but not spectacular. Polyp extension ok. I have a 100 gal net 75-80 gal tank using 1 liter zeoliths in a reactor, 3 drops of zeobak and zeostart, 0.8 ml zeofood. Things seem to worsen to the point Im about to bail on this. Ive started back gfo and have been doing water changes weekly about 35 gal each time. Ive cut feeding way back. I know its going to take time for things to improve but my impression was that the zeoliths were so powerful they would help with the phosphate its not been my experience so far. So where do I go from here?
Thanks Allmost I might try that, like I said my only other thought is to use crazy glue on the inner tube and bottom plate.
Actually funny you mentioned screen. The person I bought it from had some kind of screen for that reason but it made the jamming up worse.
dr.todd, I too am just starting out as well but have done a ton of research and followed the advise in this thread and the main zee forum, from my understand zeofood might be your issue as it not advise to use that until you start seeing lighting of coral or your level pretty much zero.
I was told to just stick with the stone, bak and start3 to begin with as the only other optional is sponge power as some suggest and some don't.
Actually funny you mentioned screen. The person I bought it from had some kind of screen for that reason but it made the jamming up worse.
dr.todd, I too am just starting out as well but have done a ton of research and followed the advise in this thread and the main zee forum, from my understand zeofood might be your issue as it not advise to use that until you start seeing lighting of coral or your level pretty much zero.
I was told to just stick with the stone, bak and start3 to begin with as the only other optional is sponge power as some suggest and some don't.
Rwpdunne
spsaholic
When you start off with the basic the corals tissue will lighten the other additives will enhance the colour but most important is keeping the parameters in line in the recommend ranges
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
Stop using zeofood. Use Start3, Zeobak, and Sponge Power. Only use Zeofood when the system is nutrient poor for 2-3 months.
Rwpdunne
spsaholic
How often do you change the zeolites
chercm
New member
8 weeks
Jstn
Member
Trying to bring back this thread from the dead.
50 gallon system, 40 gallons of water.
Recently I increased my flow from 125 L/h on 400 ml of stones to 155 L/h and my PO4 dropped from 11 ppm to 5 ppm, good results in my opinion. Now I am trying to get better growth out of my sps, what additives should I be looking at next? Currently I am using Start3 @ 0.15 mL 2x a day, Zeofood @ 2 drops 2x a week, Zeobak @ 2 drops x a week, along with coral snow every weekly water change @ 4 mL.
I was debating on getting the nanopack since it offers a variety along with a decent price point compared to just getting all the items on their own. I am really interested in trying Coral Vitalizer, how did peoples SPS react to this additive?
50 gallon system, 40 gallons of water.
Recently I increased my flow from 125 L/h on 400 ml of stones to 155 L/h and my PO4 dropped from 11 ppm to 5 ppm, good results in my opinion. Now I am trying to get better growth out of my sps, what additives should I be looking at next? Currently I am using Start3 @ 0.15 mL 2x a day, Zeofood @ 2 drops 2x a week, Zeobak @ 2 drops x a week, along with coral snow every weekly water change @ 4 mL.
I was debating on getting the nanopack since it offers a variety along with a decent price point compared to just getting all the items on their own. I am really interested in trying Coral Vitalizer, how did peoples SPS react to this additive?
what is your reading now?????
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
Zeo may have got the better of him.
chercm
New member
I am using bio pellets
I don't run full Zeo. Other than the weekly addition of traces, a drop of ZEObac to keep the bacteria population divers, I only dose Coral Vitalizer. One drop a day of CV into a system with a total volume of 40-45g. So a bit more than half the dose KZ recommends. And I keep Alk between 7.25 and 8.
My SPS are lovely. NOT the pale colors typical of Zeo tanks. But really deeply colored. In fact, I've never seen a tank in person that has better colored SPS. Not even close. But I know they are there - I hear about it, and I see the pictures here. So I guess that's my way of saying, I think it's pretty well colored up.
Is it the CZ? Or other husbandry? My lights? Hard to say. Things other than CZ matter where color is concerned. The best coral under crap light looks like crap coral. But I think CZ is an important part of the equation. My friends have nice lights. But they don't have the coral coloration I do. So SOMETHING extra is going on in my tank.
I can say that within a few days of starting CZ a couple of corals starting showing additional colors. By that I mean - for example - a blue SPS now turning green in places, making it a two colored coral, where it had been mono-colored. And I THOUGHT color saturation improved everywhere.
Was this real? Or maybe I just looking at my corals more closely now that I was dosing CZ, and had not noticed those colors before. I don't think it was imagined, or only newly noticed. But cannot prove it.
So, does it work? I know I can't prove it, but I believe it does. I believe it enough to keep paying stupid money for those little bottles. And I'm NOT made of money.
Hope that helps.
Oh, one more data point to muck up the works... I talked an SPS friend (with an awesome Radium knockoff lit SPS tank) into trying CV for a month. Did absolutely nothing for him. Though I believe he keeps his Alk around 9.5-11.
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this is my 3 months old Zeovit based. Tank is still pretty new
nice tank bro. love the openspace.
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