Zeovit - System

yes again great points.

zeoliths have to have alot to do with po4 removal, as you mentioned, we change it when coral colors become dull, which is an indication of po4 rising. Biomate prolongs the life of the zeoliths.

one thing I have to say though, for me, basic 4 is Zeolith, Zeostart3, Zeobak, and SPONGE power ! I wouldnt consider zeofood a basic 4 ... maybe in some systems where bacteria is starving, but for sure not in most of our tanks. there are alot of research on sponges, and how they consume extra carbon, extra bacteria, and in turn shed their tissue which is consumed by SPS ... so they are great little filters.

you can use the basic 4, to "manage nutritions" and then use your fish feeding to balance the nutritions, so your corals can look the way you want them to. corals will for sure use fish poop as coral food, so that would work.

but I should point, we cant always pin point exactly how much po4 and no3 is added by fish food, but with dosing amino acids for example, you know no po4 is being added and just N ... so in some cases those additives become needed / usefull to make small adjustments . for example if corals too pale, more feeding will sometimes make them go dull colored ... raises po4 ... but in that case dosing some sort of AA would just deepen the color of coral tissue and not raise po4 ... if this made sense :)


you are right about K+ consumption ... some claim its the needle wheel skimmer ... I personally do not buy into the becket skimmer argument ... so dont know for sure, but yes I dose a cap full or two daily of K+ to keep it stable ... so for sure its being consumed in my system with alpha cone vertex skimmer.

Id say basic 4 as I mentioned with SP, and also a bottel of Xtra is all thats needed ... the rest can be subsituted ... CV is particle food, so can be compared to fish poop.


HTH,
 
I am running bio pellets now and have had a little cyano and have been thinking of running a hybrid system.
My thought go back to vodka and MB7. I am replacing the vodka with bio pellets and was thinking of replacing the MB7 with zeobak and using extra special down the road when needed. Would you suggest SP too?
 
I havent tried hybrid systems, so cant really comment, but in theory it should work. dotn dose bak close to skimmer though, it will just be removed, dose it after skimmer.

about SP .... it helps grow sponges, it does increasing growth of sponges on LR and in sump and so on. here is the article about Sponges.
 
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I appreciate your replies and you made something click ...with po3 and po4 I honestly never differentiated the 2. I do have the Hanna test just never use it. I will now. I am feeling like I will go to zeovit just because I love the idea of a full system and the knowing that I am controlling everything and that everything is understood.. Do you recommend a zeovit reactor?
 
no3(nitrate) and po4.(phosphate)

for some time, I used the zeoliths in a mesh bag in sump. then moved to zeoliths in a phosban reactor, and then the zeolith reactor .... with each change, it became more efficient ... I am guessing due to the control on flow and ability to pump it and ... .

vertex has new reactors, see if you can find one of the old ones, I just picked up an old smaller one for less than 100 bucks.
 
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thanks again,
Yes ok nitrate and phosphate geez I do know that..
Sucks I just saw that reactor on a reef site by me too but it sold. I will look ..when I do the change I will only do a lower dosage of the zeolith and graduate up to the recommended amount. i will be removing my refugium right? Also I have 3 radion gen 2 with TIR and recently added my 250 watt metal halides as I run 3 of each with 14k pheonix bulbs ...tank is 3' deep and 6' wide.

Hey thanks for all our help seriously
 
if you decided to go that way, let me know ure total NET water volume [total - rocks and sand and so on] and I can give you some starting doses.

you should keep your fuge for now, and slowly remove it as algae in it dies off and zeovit starts to work.
 
So I have a 300 gal dt
60 gallons in my sump
30 gal fuge
Live rock I have 300 lbs ? Maybe
I think I could squeeze my rock so that it is 1.5 ft high and 1.5 depth
Sand bed approx 2"
Does that help?
Thanks so much for replying to me ....so appreciated
 
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I am feeling like I will go to zeovit just because I love the idea of a full system and the knowing that I am controlling everything and that everything is understood..

This is completely related to your knowledge of ALL the supplements/biological processes associated with the ZeoVit Method !

From what Ive gleaned, based upon your previous statements, you have a great deal of research/learning to carry out in order to procure the knowledge fundamental to the aforementioned statement being factual, which directly relates to being successful with the complexities of ZeoVit Method ...

Personally, I would recommend you achieve "long-term" ULN status in your system, via less complex carbon dosing/bacterioplankton methods i.e. vinegar/vodka/bacteria dosing, while acquiring the knowledge/experience necessary to responsibly/successfully commence ZeoVit.

The system is extremely efficient, in regards to its nutrient reduction capabilities, to where most negative issues arise from lowering these concentration too rapidly in the beginning stages, hence the basis of my recommendation above.

ZeoVit Method is not one to be implemented in haste, nor without a concrete comprehension of ALL its biological processes/nuances/supplement(ation)s !!!
 
Thank you guys,
I do understand that we need to keep nitrates and phosphates low and that there are different methods of achieving the results. I also realize that the nutrient level change or actually most of all changes too quickly will have most likely damaging effects...I also realize the biology of a reef requires steady parameters, constant water testing/changing and effective ways to achieve these results. I had run the traditional system as I call it with gfo, carbon in a reactor, calcium reactor with sup and refug and had some good results as I learned during the way..this was about 5yrs. I now set up a new tank 1 year ago with biopellets as my way to ulns..my thoughts were that zeovit is more defined and I could possibly get answers to any questions easier. Although I can say everybody has been great here in helping out others and myself included. I appreciate your insight on the matter. I will take it into consideration..
 
The point is I want to have a nice reef tank in my living room :-)

So if I'm busy today, or tomorrow or the next day and I don't have time to gaze into my tank on those days does that mean I shouldn't bother having a reef tank?

I have a question - if I am on the Zeovit system, can I go on vacation for a week? :)
 
I also sent you a whole thread of people not using the system and have good color.
Just because he does not use zeovit but other products does not mean he uses zeovit
my point is adding 5 drops to a hundred gallon system of anything is not going to make or break anything. If I had the money I could start a company buy a large system maintain it with products under the names such as super coral vite; booster excel; special formula derivitives; color complex; and such and have people buy the products.
 
my point is adding 5 drops to a hundred gallon system of anything is not going to make or break anything.

I take you up on this :)

drop 5 drops of bleach into your reef, and show us pics LOL according to you it wont do anything right ?

hahha PS. the pics you posted was for a system that is NOT YOURS, and also they use Ultra lith, which is essentially same as zeovit.
 
Oh and after I sell these products I would also do what Thomas Phol did and offer no scientific data no proof no data and make up all kinds of claims of what my products do and you would buy it up. Why because I have a prestige price strategy on my poducts and only high end rollers buy my stuff and they all have the money to buy nice expensive fish tanks and so do I. So you have been fooled
 
Oh and after I sell these products I would also do what Thomas Phol did and offer no scientific data no proof no data and make up all kinds of claims of what my products do and you would buy it up. Why because I have a prestige price strategy on my poducts and only high end rollers buy my stuff and they all have the money to buy nice expensive fish tanks and so do I. So you have been fooled

stop hating.

you hate alot for a person with no reef tank !
 
If I had the money I could start a company buy a large system maintain it with products under the names such as super coral vite; booster excel; special formula derivitives; color complex; and such and have people buy the products.

lets see your "small" tank with good looking SPS then :) or are you day dreaming again ? lol
 
The stones lightly attract NH4 so what my system converts it. where's the data on how fast your stones do it. its probally the same as a system can convert it
 

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