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yes again great points.
zeoliths have to have alot to do with po4 removal, as you mentioned, we change it when coral colors become dull, which is an indication of po4 rising. Biomate prolongs the life of the zeoliths.
one thing I have to say though, for me, basic 4 is Zeolith, Zeostart3, Zeobak, and SPONGE power ! I wouldnt consider zeofood a basic 4 ... maybe in some systems where bacteria is starving, but for sure not in most of our tanks. there are alot of research on sponges, and how they consume extra carbon, extra bacteria, and in turn shed their tissue which is consumed by SPS ... so they are great little filters.
you can use the basic 4, to "manage nutritions" and then use your fish feeding to balance the nutritions, so your corals can look the way you want them to. corals will for sure use fish poop as coral food, so that would work.
but I should point, we cant always pin point exactly how much po4 and no3 is added by fish food, but with dosing amino acids for example, you know no po4 is being added and just N ... so in some cases those additives become needed / usefull to make small adjustments . for example if corals too pale, more feeding will sometimes make them go dull colored ... raises po4 ... but in that case dosing some sort of AA would just deepen the color of coral tissue and not raise po4 ... if this made sense
you are right about K+ consumption ... some claim its the needle wheel skimmer ... I personally do not buy into the becket skimmer argument ... so dont know for sure, but yes I dose a cap full or two daily of K+ to keep it stable ... so for sure its being consumed in my system with alpha cone vertex skimmer.
Id say basic 4 as I mentioned with SP, and also a bottel of Xtra is all thats needed ... the rest can be subsituted ... CV is particle food, so can be compared to fish poop.
HTH,
zeoliths have to have alot to do with po4 removal, as you mentioned, we change it when coral colors become dull, which is an indication of po4 rising. Biomate prolongs the life of the zeoliths.
one thing I have to say though, for me, basic 4 is Zeolith, Zeostart3, Zeobak, and SPONGE power ! I wouldnt consider zeofood a basic 4 ... maybe in some systems where bacteria is starving, but for sure not in most of our tanks. there are alot of research on sponges, and how they consume extra carbon, extra bacteria, and in turn shed their tissue which is consumed by SPS ... so they are great little filters.
you can use the basic 4, to "manage nutritions" and then use your fish feeding to balance the nutritions, so your corals can look the way you want them to. corals will for sure use fish poop as coral food, so that would work.
but I should point, we cant always pin point exactly how much po4 and no3 is added by fish food, but with dosing amino acids for example, you know no po4 is being added and just N ... so in some cases those additives become needed / usefull to make small adjustments . for example if corals too pale, more feeding will sometimes make them go dull colored ... raises po4 ... but in that case dosing some sort of AA would just deepen the color of coral tissue and not raise po4 ... if this made sense

you are right about K+ consumption ... some claim its the needle wheel skimmer ... I personally do not buy into the becket skimmer argument ... so dont know for sure, but yes I dose a cap full or two daily of K+ to keep it stable ... so for sure its being consumed in my system with alpha cone vertex skimmer.
Id say basic 4 as I mentioned with SP, and also a bottel of Xtra is all thats needed ... the rest can be subsituted ... CV is particle food, so can be compared to fish poop.
HTH,