Andre Rosario
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chercm
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i need some help here please . my po4 kept getting stuck at 0.04ppm. i feed my 8 fishes twice a day using formula 1 pellets
here is my dosing plan:
Water change once every 2 weeks .
Tank size 586l
Salinity : 33
dkh - 7
zeolite : 1.5l
flow rate - 600l - 6sec to fill 1 litres
here is the dosage plan :
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
CV - 3 drops
Sponge power - 2 drop
Xtra - 3 drops
zeo bak - 5 drops
Zeolife - 4 ml
Tuesday
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
Amino - 2 drops
CS - 4ml Pure
biomate - 6 drops
Wed
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
CV - 3 drops
Sponge power - 2 drop
zeo bak - 5 drop
Zeofood -6 drops
Zeolife - 4 ml
Thursday
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
Amino - 2 drops
biomate - 6 drops
Strontium - 6ml
ZZ - 1/2 spoon
Friday
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
CS - 4ml Pure
Sponge power - 2 drops
Stylo glow -2 drops
Zeolife - 4 ml
Sat
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
Amino - 2 drops
B-balance - 10 ml
CV - 4 drops
Iron - 2 drops
zeofood - 6 drops
Sunday
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
iodine - 4 drops
Zeolife - 4 ml
ZZ - 1/2 spoon
here is my dosing plan:
Water change once every 2 weeks .
Tank size 586l
Salinity : 33
dkh - 7
zeolite : 1.5l
flow rate - 600l - 6sec to fill 1 litres
here is the dosage plan :
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
CV - 3 drops
Sponge power - 2 drop
Xtra - 3 drops
zeo bak - 5 drops
Zeolife - 4 ml
Tuesday
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
Amino - 2 drops
CS - 4ml Pure
biomate - 6 drops
Wed
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
CV - 3 drops
Sponge power - 2 drop
zeo bak - 5 drop
Zeofood -6 drops
Zeolife - 4 ml
Thursday
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
Amino - 2 drops
biomate - 6 drops
Strontium - 6ml
ZZ - 1/2 spoon
Friday
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
CS - 4ml Pure
Sponge power - 2 drops
Stylo glow -2 drops
Zeolife - 4 ml
Sat
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
Amino - 2 drops
B-balance - 10 ml
CV - 4 drops
Iron - 2 drops
zeofood - 6 drops
Sunday
Start 3 - 0.7ml morning and night
iodine - 4 drops
Zeolife - 4 ml
ZZ - 1/2 spoon
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
I would stop the color enhancers and zeofood until you reach zero phosphates.
Stick to the basics, Start3, SP, Bak, and Biomate. Biomate will help lower PO4.
Stick to the basics, Start3, SP, Bak, and Biomate. Biomate will help lower PO4.
chercm
New member
will do. i will be dosing 10 drops of biomate everyday till the po4 comes down to 0.
This right here. This is perfect.
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
It may take some time to lower PO4, but it will begin to drop.
chercm
New member
some one was suggesting to perform 20% water change 3x this week . will it help to bring down faster?
chercm
New member
I thought it is to make po4 undetectable? A lot of reefers are telling me that , it is quite a big challenge
igot2gats
Deeeetroit Basketball!
Why do you suggest Berlin first? Just curious, as I'm in this situation....
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
Why rush? Stay the course and the PO4 will drop into your desired range.
karsseboom
New member
You want to master the basic reef skills before jumping into zeovit. Zeovit requires you to understand your reef more and be able to make adjustments based on your observations. Zeovit is not a cookie cutter system, each tank will require different dosages and you'll need to watch things closely and be able to correct things as you go along.
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
Zeo is more of an advance method of filtration. Gain experience with other less involved or simpler methods first.
cugly
Dansreeftank
Ya I know alot of tanks running zeovit and they're beautiful tanks its very hard to argue what I see that zeovit works..the growth is amazing colors are great polyp extensions are more noticeable day or night. .I like the fact that the support is great..just like every other system it takes time to figure it out you dont just become a master of something it takes time. And you will always be learning something new everytime. Nobody starts knowing how manage a reeftank in one day..you do what works for you everyone is different. .i tried running different system and by far zeovit has been the easiest to manage and it works I know I need to work pn making it look better but I had beetter success rate in my experience. .im able to keep things that I was never able to before that to me is a plus..guys like Allmost help me out alot .and Im thankful..we all try to achieve same goals that's to maintain a healthy reef..if I see something that works ill give a try if it doesnt work for me then its not for me..I find something that will..
Happy reefing everyone. .you wont know untill you try..
chercm
New member
i tried to do the 3x water change of 20% but the po4 is still at 0.07ppm
what should i do ?
Allmost
New member
chercm, in reefing, things take time. specially with carbon dosing. if you change your "method" weekly, then you will never see the effect of the path you are on.
last week you said you had po4 of 0.04, after 3 water changes, it went up to 0.07 ? then something is wrong. I have followed your posts on here and other side, and honestly, I would stick to G. Alexanders recommendations, and give them time to work. check your source water and salt as well. lastly, observing corals is very important as well, as test kits can do only so much.
if i were you, I would either stick to one methology and wait for it to kick in, instead of trying everything suggested on the net .... OR just stop zeovit, and lower your po4 and no3 with phosphate removers, as those are more simple methods.
you have a very nice tank, and corals, I have seen some pics, but I just feel like you take all the advices given which sometimes they contradict each other
chercm
New member
I completely understand but the problem my frags are turning and dying by the day and it hurts to see them die and money goes Dow the drain .
chercm, in reefing, things take time. specially with carbon dosing. if you change your "method" weekly, then you will never see the effect of the path you are on.
last week you said you had po4 of 0.04, after 3 water changes, it went up to 0.07 ? then something is wrong. I have followed your posts on here and other side, and honestly, I would stick to G. Alexanders recommendations, and give them time to work. check your source water and salt as well. lastly, observing corals is very important as well, as test kits can do only so much.
if i were you, I would either stick to one methology and wait for it to kick in, instead of trying everything suggested on the net .... OR just stop zeovit, and lower your po4 and no3 with phosphate removers, as those are more simple methods.
you have a very nice tank, and corals, I have seen some pics, but I just feel like you take all the advices given which sometimes they contradict each other
CUNAReefer
New member
Hi CherCM,
Sorry to hear of your issues. If you are having so many issues with the ZEO, you may want to take a break. Take an approach that has worked for you in the past. Get your tank stable and healthy, then take another crack at ZEO. Just remember SPS stands for Stability Promotes Success. If you are having issues with your corals, daily changes will only make the problem worse. We are all here to help, but you will need to avoid taking advice from multiple forums. You may run into conflicting suggestions that will cause more harm than good. If you are willing to stop the zeo to get your tank healthy again (not that zeo makes a tank unhealthy), we can help you re-enter zeo one step at a time.
Warmest Regards,
James
chercm
New member
maybe i am to blame for this also as i cannot settle on the position of the wave maker and how strong is the wave that is running in my tank .
what i plan to do is to dose only the basic for the Zeovit and keep the parameters stable . at this point of time i finally found the wave that i like to be running
dosing plan :
Start3 2x per per day at 0.6ml
zeo bak 3 times per week at 10 drops
bio mate daily at 10 drops
zeolite - 1.5l running 600ml of flow in the zeovit reactor
ZZ - 1/2 spoon - 3 x per week
CS - 5 ml - 3x per week
i use red sea blue bucket as my salt .
Temperature at 25 degrees
what do you think ?
what i plan to do is to dose only the basic for the Zeovit and keep the parameters stable . at this point of time i finally found the wave that i like to be running
dosing plan :
Start3 2x per per day at 0.6ml
zeo bak 3 times per week at 10 drops
bio mate daily at 10 drops
zeolite - 1.5l running 600ml of flow in the zeovit reactor
ZZ - 1/2 spoon - 3 x per week
CS - 5 ml - 3x per week
i use red sea blue bucket as my salt .
Temperature at 25 degrees
what do you think ?
CUNAReefer
New member
Hi Cher,
I am going to take a bit of an unorthodox approach to replying to your response... I am going to ignore everything you just typed... well most of it at least. I am going to give you a simple recipe to get you back on the track of zeo success. First I'll comment on some of the information you provided.
1)If your happy with your wave, then you have one part of the equation solved. Your SPS polyps should look like a field of long grass moving in the wind.
2)A temperature of 77 degrees F is good. That is what I keep my temp at
3)If your happy with your salt, change 10% on a weekly basis. I use brightwell aquatics neo marine, but there are quite a few good salts out there. Make sure your salt has a low alk level.
Now for the zeo...
dose 1 drop of the zeobac for each 25 gallons of net water volume three times a week
for each 25g of net water volume, you should only have 50ml of zeo media in your reactor. Your flow through your reactor should be enough to fill up a 16oz container in 10 seconds. A flow faster than this is not helping you in any way. I recommend you start brand new. Dump out your current stones and begin as if you were starting zeo from the beginning. Using more zeo media than recommend combined with an overly aggressive flow will most certainly result in tissue recession and/or pale colors
Follow the Zeostart3 dosing instructions. I recommend getting a doser and dosing the recommended amount broken up into 2 separate doses.
Test your water parameters. Write down the results in a log. You want to keep track of your alk, Ca, Phosphate, Nitrate, and Potassium. Alk should be stead around 7. Calcium around 420. Phosphate .02-.03. Nitrate .2 Potassium 400 (use a salifert potassium test kit).
You want to chart how your tank reacts to the zeo. Don't use anything else at this time. In conjunction with the zeo, you need to begin feeding your tank every other night after the lights are out and the polyps are extended. I recommend refrigerated oyster eggs. The goal is to max out feeding while still maintaining the parameters I have laid out for you.
Do this for three months and assess. Feel free to PM me with questions regarding your progress. I have laid out the exact path that I followed to be successful.
Warmest Regards,
James
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