Zeovit - System

300ml is a pretty safe amount for 150g net. With some simple math, I came up with the net 25g/50ml stone recommendation.

Hi James. I'm curious that you only use this little amount of stones. I use the recommendation of 1L / 100g (net). If I could use less, then I definitely would. I'm barebottom with only 9 fish for a 200g net system.

I just hit my first 2 weeks using zeo so I have a long way to go before I get zeo-stable.
 
Hi James. I'm curious that you only use this little amount of stones. I use the recommendation of 1L / 100g (net). If I could use less, then I definitely would. I'm barebottom with only 9 fish for a 200g net system.

I just hit my first 2 weeks using zeo so I have a long way to go before I get zeo-stable.

Hi Chris,

Hope all is well!

I recommend using much less zeo media. The issue with using that much (and I learned the hard way) is you can strip your tank of nutrients very quickly. This causes many problems. If you use my approach, you have more room for mistakes, and you can ease into a happy/stable zeo environment. It takes longer, but you'll find the perfect balance. If you do keep the suggested amount of stones, just keep an eye out for pale colors and tissue recession at the base. You may also see your growth slow. Of course this all depends on how rapidly you reduce your nutrients. Also remember to feed to achieve the deep coloration and overall healthy look to your corals. Check out Oyster Feast. I feed every other night.

Warmest Regards,
James
 
I agree totally on using less then recommend amounts. I use 1 liter of stones for 150 gallons of total volume, with a flow of about 80 gph. I use to run the recommend amount and had some really pale colors also. Using less amounts of the basic four allows you to have darker more rich colors. It comes down to being familiar with the system and what works for you.


I may even decrease the amounts more depending on how much darker I want the tissue to be.
 
I agree totally on using less then recommend amounts. I use 1 liter of stones for 150 gallons of total volume, with a flow of about 80 gph. I use to run the recommend amount and had some really pale colors also. Using less amounts of the basic four allows you to have darker more rich colors. It comes down to being familiar with the system and what works for you.


I may even decrease the amounts more depending on how much darker I want the tissue to be.

Great post! You hit the nail on the head. It all is personal preference and knowing your tank. This is exactly why I recommend new users to use less and gradually increase. Eventually you will find the sweet spot :)
 
Thanks guys. I have an excess PO4 (.16) so I need to get those down. BP, GFO and a fuge aren't helping. I took the GFO off line and dosed some LaCl to get rid of the PO4. Once I get the levels down and stable, I'll reduce the amount of stones.
 
let's get started .

Does this look like the right container to use ?

My po4 have raised to 0.16ppm since yesterday i have lower the flow.

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Absolutely! I have a cup that measures ml, cups and fluid oz. I found the cup at the local grocery store. I just add the stones to the cup until I get to the 300ml line. I use this cup for all of my zeo measurements.

With all zeo additives, its important that you use your net water volume. You need to consider sand, rock, equipment, etc. Once you have estimated your net water volume, you can tailor your dosing to this water volume.

The stones need to be changed every six weeks. Over time, when I changed my stones, I've played around with the amount. 375ml is the maximum I can use for my tank. Whenever I use any more... growth stops, colors start to become pale, and tissue recession starts at the base. 300ml is a pretty safe amount for 150g net. With some simple math, I came up with the net 25g/50ml stone recommendation. Its a pretty safe amount that does allow some room for error. You also will need to adjust the flow through the reactor. I hold the cup up to the reactor output. I adjust the flow so that I can fill my cup 16oz up in 10 seconds.

Now that you have the correct amount of stones and flow, the testing and the feeding begins. Until you can develop a routine that produces desired water params, you will need to test, test, and test some more.

These are some very basic recommendations to get started. Even though you can become more aggressive with the zeo products, this is a great starting point. Taking this approach lets you become familiar with the zeo method, and also lets you increase your dosing, reactor flow, and amount of stones based on how daring you want to be. Once you master the basics... Then you can start tweaking your colors with the other additives :)

Hope this helps:thumbsup:

James
 
let's get started .

Does this look like the right container to use ?

My po4 have raised to 0.16ppm since yesterday i have lower the flow.

file-31.jpg

Nice job Cher. I am going to go through the process with you. Since we have the same water volume, I will be taking my own advice and will be going through the same process as you. Stay tuned for my testing results.
 
Nice job Cher. I am going to go through the process with you. Since we have the same water volume, I will be taking my own advice and will be going through the same process as you. Stay tuned for my testing results.

The results of my water tests:

Phosphate .18 (I have been feeding a new school of tiny chromis frozen oyster eggs and frozen rotifers for the past 10 days. The reading was also taken after I dumped in my food for the evening. This is perfect for documenting the zeo process)
Nitrate .5
Alk 7.3
Ca 430
Potassium 410

Emptied my Zeo Reactor


300ml of new stones before putting in my reactor


This is where my zeostart is dosed


300ml of stones are now all new. I added 6 drops of zeobac. My zeostart3 is on a doser. The zeostart dose (1.2ml) is broken up into 4 separate doses throughout the day.

I'm wondering if we should start a new thread?
 
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i changed a new zeolite rocks and loaded 300ml into the reactor

start3 - 0.6ml dosed twice a day
zeobak - 6 drops

dkh - 7.8
ca-420
po4- 0.12ppm
 
Absolutely! I have a cup that measures ml, cups and fluid oz. I found the cup at the local grocery store. I just add the stones to the cup until I get to the 300ml line. I use this cup for all of my zeo measurements.

With all zeo additives, its important that you use your net water volume. You need to consider sand, rock, equipment, etc. Once you have estimated your net water volume, you can tailor your dosing to this water volume.

The stones need to be changed every six weeks. Over time, when I changed my stones, I've played around with the amount. 375ml is the maximum I can use for my tank. Whenever I use any more... growth stops, colors start to become pale, and tissue recession starts at the base. 300ml is a pretty safe amount for 150g net. With some simple math, I came up with the net 25g/50ml stone recommendation. Its a pretty safe amount that does allow some room for error. You also will need to adjust the flow through the reactor. I hold the cup up to the reactor output. I adjust the flow so that I can fill my cup 16oz up in 10 seconds.

Now that you have the correct amount of stones and flow, the testing and the feeding begins. Until you can develop a routine that produces desired water params, you will need to test, test, and test some more.

These are some very basic recommendations to get started. Even though you can become more aggressive with the zeo products, this is a great starting point. Taking this approach lets you become familiar with the zeo method, and also lets you increase your dosing, reactor flow, and amount of stones based on how daring you want to be. Once you master the basics... Then you can start tweaking your colors with the other additives :)

Hope this helps:thumbsup:

James

Thank you James for your detailed reply.

I also use a measuring jug for my zeolites and carbon quantity calculations. I must say it is very important to do so.

Your theory regarding using less zeolites is an interesting one. I also just read you latest post which showed you replacing all zeolites? Do you replace all?... Did keep a small amount to seed the new ones?

6-7 weeks IMO is spot on for changing the zeolites. Do you rinse or soak them in RO water beforehand?

Your coral pictures look awesome and I'm looking into getting the AVAST Marine Porthole too as I have trouble taking top down shots due to the reflections.

Thanks
 
Thank you James for your detailed reply.

I also use a measuring jug for my zeolites and carbon quantity calculations. I must say it is very important to do so.

Your theory regarding using less zeolites is an interesting one. I also just read you latest post which showed you replacing all zeolites? Do you replace all?... Did keep a small amount to seed the new ones?

6-7 weeks IMO is spot on for changing the zeolites. Do you rinse or soak them in RO water beforehand?

Your coral pictures look awesome and I'm looking into getting the AVAST Marine Porthole too as I have trouble taking top down shots due to the reflections.

Thanks

Hi Anthony,

Hope all is well!

No problem. Glad I can help :) Every ZEO user should have a measuring jug around.

As for the zeo media, I do not replace all media at once. Just my 300ml every 6 weeks. I am helping another zeo user, CherCM, restart his zeo. I decided to take the journey with him. I will be following my own advice as I help him get his tank stable with zeo. I want other reefers to learn as I restart my system. Over the course of several weeks/months we will ease into the perfect amount of zeo media for Cher. Meaning... we will add 300ml of zeo media at a time since his net water volume is the same as mine. Through frequent testing, we will find what amount of media works for his tank. This also helps us avoid the instant pale colors and issues that accompany the over usage of media.

I do rinse the media before placing in the reactor. I've noticed some negative effects when placing the dusty media into the reactor. I've never soaked the media, but I'm sure it couldn't hurt.

Thank you for the comments. I originally had the light colored pastel colors. I eventually learned that I could get the deep rich coloration by feeding the corals along with using the correct amount of zeo products for my tank. The AM Porthole is a great little tool to have around. The glare off the top of my water prevented me from taking good top downs. In some of my prior shots, you can see the shadow of my hand blocking the glare from the ATI Sunpower. :lolspin:

Warmest Regards,
James
 
Zeo

Zeo

Have you noticed a difference in how your coral look from using different reactor media? I know Brightwell and Zeo make the zeovite media. I wonder if any differences are seen?
 
Have you noticed a difference in how your coral look from using different reactor media? I know Brightwell and Zeo make the zeovite media. I wonder if any differences are seen?

I have used both types. Sometimes I even mix the two. I substituted the brightwells for the zeo media when my normal supplier was out of the zeo. I noticed no change at all. IMHO, they seem to be perfect substitutes. Right now, I am going through the rest of my Brightwells media. All other products I use are zeo only.
 
Zeo

Zeo

Thank you can you clarify where zeoback is added? Is it dosed into the reactor with the stones or do you dose the sump, or main display?

I assume dosing the rocks makes most sense
 
Thank you can you clarify where zeoback is added? Is it dosed into the reactor with the stones or do you dose the sump, or main display?

I assume dosing the rocks makes most sense

You are correct, Mike. When I started dosing zeo, I always dosed near the reactor. Now that I have been dosing zeo for some time, I'll mix it with my food when I feed my oyster feast.
 
My phosphate is now .12 from .18. Fed the fish in the display and sump this morning. Zeostart3 dosed throughout the day on the doser.
 
Hi Anthony,

Hope all is well!

No problem. Glad I can help :) Every ZEO user should have a measuring jug around.

As for the zeo media, I do not replace all media at once. Just my 300ml every 6 weeks. I am helping another zeo user, CherCM, restart his zeo. I decided to take the journey with him. I will be following my own advice as I help him get his tank stable with zeo. I want other reefers to learn as I restart my system. Over the course of several weeks/months we will ease into the perfect amount of zeo media for Cher. Meaning... we will add 300ml of zeo media at a time since his net water volume is the same as mine. Through frequent testing, we will find what amount of media works for his tank. This also helps us avoid the instant pale colors and issues that accompany the over usage of media.

I do rinse the media before placing in the reactor. I've noticed some negative effects when placing the dusty media into the reactor. I've never soaked the media, but I'm sure it couldn't hurt.

Thank you for the comments. I originally had the light colored pastel colors. I eventually learned that I could get the deep rich coloration by feeding the corals along with using the correct amount of zeo products for my tank. The AM Porthole is a great little tool to have around. The glare off the top of my water prevented me from taking good top downs. In some of my prior shots, you can see the shadow of my hand blocking the glare from the ATI Sunpower. :lolspin:

Warmest Regards,
James

Thanks for the reply James. I'll continue to follow along here.
Andrew
 
Zeostart 3

Zeostart 3

Hello James

May I ask what does Zeostart 3 do? What is the purpose of dosing it three times a day as opposed to once a day? The bottle states 2.5ml per 250 ml and do not overdose as this is highly concentrated.

Please explain

Thanks
Mike
 
Hello James

May I ask what does Zeostart 3 do? What is the purpose of dosing it three times a day as opposed to once a day? The bottle states 2.5ml per 250 ml and do not overdose as this is highly concentrated.

Please explain

Thanks
Mike

zeostart3 is a carbon source. Its more effective to have a continuous dosage of carbon through out the day rather then all at once.
 
zeostart3 is a carbon source. Its more effective to have a continuous dosage of carbon through out the day rather then all at once.
+1 Beat me to it. :) Mike, you would dose 4.5 ml throughout the day. If you can get a doser on a controller, you can break up the 4.5ml into 4 doses. Works very well!
 

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