Zeovit

[madadi]

this one is even cooler if it was just as accurate. has anyone tried the seachem phosphate kit? it has phosphate, silicate, and iodine/dide. anyone tried it? i was thinking of buying an iodine test kit anyway so i can save a bit of its good. its from seachem.

http://www.aquariumguys.com/multitestkit4.html

 

[glassbox-design]

madadi,

It's not very accurate, I wouldnt waste your money on it. Also, Iodine is very difficult to test for...I'd ask Randy his opinion on which kits, if any, are worth while.

 

[Zedar]

damn dbl posts

 

[Zedar]

the seachem p04 test kit states.

"This kit measures inorganic phosphate down to 0.05 mg/L, producing a unique easy to read yellow-green-blue color range in marine and freshwater." ehh not great. Ill stick with tropic marin

I know I must sound like a seachem salesman, because i use so many of their products, but hey the price is right and the quality is there.
I dont know if I mentioned that I started using their reef salt. allot of people on the zeo boards are switching to it.
Its pretty close to NSW. As you may or may not know, as you bring your nutrients down, you need to bring your water into NsW parameters. Potassium is real important. Most salts are low in this.

Composition of Seachem ReefSaltâ"žÂ¢

Ion

Concentration (ppm)
Chloride
19336

Sodium
10752

Sulfate
2657

Magnesium
1317

Potassium
421

Calcium
442

Carbonate/Bicarbonate
142

Strontium
9.5

Boron
16

Bromide
64

Iodide
0.060

Lithium
0.3

Silicon
<0.1

Iron
0.0098

Copper
0.0003

Nickel
<0.015

Zinc
0.0107

Manganese
0.0023

Molybdenum
0.0098

Cobalt
0.0004

Vanadium
<0.015

Selenium
<0.019

Rubidium
0.118

Barium
<0.04


NSW

Chlorine
Cl
19,000

Sodium
Na
10,500

Magnesium
Mg
1,325

Sulfur/Sulphur
S
900

Calcium
Ca
410

Potassium
K
385

Bromine
Br
67

Boron
B
4.4

Strontium
Sr
8

Silicon
Si
2.5

 

[Zedar]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12200357#post12200357 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by glassbox-design
madadi,

It's not very accurate, I wouldnt waste your money on it. Also, Iodine is very difficult to test for...I'd ask Randy his opinion on which kits, if any, are worth while.

I have the salifert iodine kit. Another crappy kit thats hard to interpret.

Mesocosm has stated that he doesnt have allot of faith in the K+ test kits

I read somewhere that iodide "when overdosed" will darken the pocolpora corals very quickly. Most people use this as a gauge to determine dosage amounts.

If potassium is OD'd yellow acros shimer green.


OK an update on my tank.

I have some major growth going on !!!!

In one day I have 1/8 tips on a few corals. And the color of the tips are a color that these corals have never shown before.
If i get a chance tomorrow, I'll snap some picks. Then in a few days take a few more to show the growth im getting.

I slightly modified my dosing (after reading some threads)

VSV 1 ml per day---- this was dropped from 5ml per day----- I might have to increase this if algae returns.

5 drops of zeovit AA's twice a day ---- only suppose to be once per day
---- I felt the worst that can happen is an algae bloom. I felt the corals were starving. remember ive been low nutrient for over a month and havent feed or dosed anything.
So the result is a brown algae on the glass every day. I can live with that. The results have been very impressive.

1 drop of lugols iodine

5 ml brightwell Iron

Brightwell Aquatics Zooplanktōs-M 500 - 1,000µm (1mm)

This is a medium sized zooplankton around $5 a bottle.
They suggest no more then 25 ml for my sized tank per day

yeah I tripled that

I target fed all acros and montis 3 times a day.

Like I said these corals were starving. And their response to the feedings seems to suggest they appreciate it.

Oh and im feeding fish every couple hours. Or just about eveytime i walk past the tank

again their has been more algae on the glass but no other signs of algae. Im not sure ill be able to keep this up... time will tell.

 

[madadi]

thanks for the advice guys. im going to get the tropic marine kit

the seachem salt price is really good at the drfands

 

[sailfintang]

Thanks for the update on the tank zedar. Now how long did it take for your algae to fade, if i remmeber you said about 3 months or so when using the v/s/v method. I gues I have a ways to go since I am on day 3, and goign with the slow and steady increase. Until my order gets shipped i will not be dosing anything but frozen foods, seachem stability, v/s/v, iron, and iodide. Still have plenty of other salt left over till i switch back to seachem. gotta talk ot my LFS to se if they will carry it so I dont get murdered on the shipping.

 

[madadi]

hey zadar what is your total system volume? thanks
i think ill also switch to 1ml a day of vsv from 5ml i have a dsb and use GFO so bacterial growth might be limited for now.

 

[eskymick]

I've been following your threads closely, Zedar. I like your style ... point and shoot. You get things done !!

I also have a low nutrient tank (achieved by methods other than Zeo), but I do love Zeo suppliments. My goal is to intensify the great colors that I already have and to accelarate growth. I want all of my colonies to grow to a large, "show" size.

Keep your reports coming. I'll add what I can.

Following is a pic of my current pride and joy ....

 

[stony_corals]

Zedar, do you have pictures, before and after with your method?

 

[sailfintang]

eskymick

What supplements of Zeo or alternative addittives are you using to achive accelerated growth, better PE, and greater colors on your system?

 

[eskymick]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12203007#post12203007 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sailfintang
eskymick

What supplements of Zeo or alternative addittives are you using to achive accelerated growth, better PE, and greater colors on your system?

Amino Acids ... I had been dosing Warner Marine Ultra Aminos. I used the last of my bottle the other night and beginning today I will be using ZEOvit Amino Acids. I dose as recommended on the packaging. I've found AAs to increase growth and color.

Iodine ... I began dosing Lugol's Solution two weeks ago. Since that time I've found SPS corals, which I thought to have white growth tips, do in fact have blue growth tips. The transformation has been amazing. I dose as recommended on the packaging.

Magnesium ... I dose as needed with the recipe described in Randy's 2-part (mixture of Epson salt and Mag flake)

Potassium ... I just received the ZEOvit potassium test kit, and I will begin dosing with iHerb Potassium Chloride (as described by Zedar in an earlier post).

ZEOvit Stylo-Pocci-Glow ... I just received this product and will begin using it with the anticipation that it will brighten my Stylos and Poccis.

ZEOvit Sponge Power ... Another new product for me. I've read good reviews. It's a coral food .. with an observed benefit of increased growth and color. I'm anxious to see how well it works for me.

 

[Zedar]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12201278#post12201278 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by madadi
hey zadar what is your total system volume? thanks
i think ill also switch to 1ml a day of vsv from 5ml i have a dsb and use GFO so bacterial growth might be limited for now.

120 gallons

 

[Zedar]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12202294#post12202294 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stony_corals
Zedar, do you have pictures, before and after with your method?

Ill working on it My photo skills are nil but ill so the best I can

 

[Zedar]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12202052#post12202052 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eskymick
I've been following your threads closely, Zedar. I like your style ... point and shoot. You get things done !!

I also have a low nutrient tank (achieved by methods other than Zeo), but I do love Zeo suppliments. My goal is to intensify the great colors that I already have and to accelarate growth. I want all of my colonies to grow to a large, "show" size.

Keep your reports coming. I'll add what I can.

Following is a pic of my current pride and joy ....

WOW!!! what a beautiful Coral!!! Congrats!!!

Please post as much info as you can. I too think some of the zeo sups are superior to others. I was using seachem AA's and all they did was overflow my skimmer.

We may just prove that you can have a zeo tank with only a few of their supplements.

 

[eskymick]

Thanks, Zedar. I must admit that I have other colonies that don't look quit so nice. Thus, I'm looking for ways to "tweak" my reef for overall improvement of growth and color. Your input, as well as that of others in this thread, have sent me down the right path (I think).

 

[sailfintang]

Please keep us posted on how the other zeo supplements change you corals specifically:

1. Sponge Power

2. Stylo Pocci Glow

Also I am gong to be usign the warner AA's as well at first let me know how they compare with the Zeo AA's after you've used those for a while. Hopefully we will be able to design a cost effective alternative to the zeo system by the end of this thread. It looks as if we are almost there already. i will try and keep a running list of the things we have decided work best and whats most cost effective.

 

[madadi]

i went to the drug store today and i bought some iodine. the bottle reads:

iodine 2%
sodium iodide 2.4%
alcohol 47%
other ingredients purified water

how does this compare to lugols iodine?
this is the drugstore kind for infection prevention.
will i be ok if i dose 1drop per 120 gal system of this?
thanks!

 

[eskymick]

Lugol's has "deionized water, potassium iodide, iodine" listed as its ingredients.

I'd be wary about adding he iodine you purchased at the drug store. It may be ok, but I'm no chemist.

 

[madadi]

i dont know either how different potassium iodide and sodium iodide is. thanks for the response. maybe ill ask Randy.